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    Updated labs, met with new Doctor...

    I posted my last labs on 10-19-12, the thread is posted below.

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    I met with new docotr this week. went rather well and i feel the proper road is being travled. Here are my updated labs, couple of items are high that have never been high before so I am curious what it may be from, my cholestrol is always in the same range, bad is too low and good is just over high.. Could the ones that are now high be from the test cyp? My follow up is on monday with the doctor so I am just trying to get a jump on posibblities before he and I talk again.

    He has however asked me to stop my test injections for the next 14 days and has given me Clomid tablets to take for a small kickstart. He plans on giving me my new protocol of test, hcg , and an AI, just dont remember what he said it would be..

    So any input would be welcome on these new results, I do my shot every thurdays morning at 530 am, 1/2 ml of test cyp= 100mg.Only thing I do notice is I feel great usuall friday middat through monday afternoon, by monday 2pm I am getting tired and motivation is noticably lower, tuesday, wedsnday and thursday all low then friday good to go... Is this normalas my free t is over range???

    Thanks in advanced for your comments... You all have helped me in many ways with your input and suggestions, after 6 years of feeling like crap and 4 years of failed doctor attempts, I am getting back to where I feel good, just at the point of tweaking you could say..

    11/28/2012. Day before next shot

    Complete Blood Count
    WBC: 10.3 Range 3.9-11.1 K/ul
    RBC: 5.44 Range 4.2-6.0 M/ul
    Hemoglobin: 16.9 Range 13.2-18 g/dl
    Hematocrit: 49.3 Range 38.5-54
    MCV: 91 Range 80-100 fl
    MCH: 31.1 Range 26-34 pg
    MCHC: 34.3 Range 31-37 g/dl
    RDW: 14.5 Range 11-15.5 %
    Platelet Count: 254 Range 140-400 k/ul
    MPV: 9 Range 7.5-11.6 fl

    General Chemistry
    Glucose: 81 Range 65-100 mg/dl
    BUN: 18 Range 6-20 mg/dl
    Creatine, Serum: 1 Range 0.5-1.2 mg/dl
    Sodium: 141 Range 133-145 mmol/L
    Potassium: 4.2 Range 3.3-5.1 mmol/L
    Chloride: 103 Range 96-108 mmol/L
    CO2: 23 Range 22-32 mmol/L
    Calcium: 9.5 Range 8.5-10.5 mg/dl
    Total Protien: 7 Range 6.4-8.3 g/dl
    Albumin: 4.8 Range 3.2-4.8 ??
    Globulin: 2.2 Range 2.1-3.6 g/dl
    Bilirubin, Total: 1.7 Range 0.0-1.0 mg/dl Last test was 1.1
    Alkaline Phosphatase: 75 Range 35-129 U/L
    ALT: 75 Range <42 U/L last test was at 37
    AST: 38 Range <39 U/L ??? borderline
    Albumin/Globulin Ration: 2.2 Range 0.8-2 Last test was at 2
    BUN/CREAT RATIO: 18 Range 7.3-21.7
    GFR, estimated: 91 ml/min

    Diabetes Evaluation
    Hemoglobin AlC: 5.2 Range <6.0%
    Insulin , Fasting: 6.2 Range 2.6-24.9 uIU/ml

    Coronary Risk
    Triglycerides: 179 Range <150 mg/dl last test was at 147
    Cholesterol, Total: 194 Range <200
    HDL Chol: 36 Range >40 mg/dl This is normal for me has always been low last test was at 38
    LDL Chol: 122 Range <100 mg/dl This also is a normal for me just over last test was at 110
    Chol/HDL Ratio: 5.4 Range <5
    CRP, Cardio: 0.9 mg/L+, Low risk of CVD
    Homocysteine: 13.5 Range 4.5-15 umol/L

    Thyroid Testing
    T3, Free: 3.6 Range 1.8-4.6 pg/ml
    T4, Free: 1.29 Range 0.9-1.7 ng/dl
    TSH: 1.620 Range 0.27-4.2 uIU/ml

    Tumor Markers
    PSA Total: 1.030 Range 0.0-4.0

    Endocrine Evaluation
    LH: <0.100 Range 1.7-8.6 as expected last test was at 0.6
    Progesterone: 0.69 Range 0.2-1.4 ng/ml
    Estradiol: 26.5 Range 7.6-42.6 pg/ml last test was at 16.8
    DHEA Sulfate: 317.5 Range 160-449 ug/dl ***this is up from last test at 194

    Testosterone ,Total: 566 Range 280-1100 ng/dl *** This up from last test 194 Highest I have been in over 6 years
    Sex Hormone Bind Globulin: 14 Range 10-80 nmol/L
    Testosterone, Free: 28.30 Range 1.9-27 ng/dl This up from last test at 7.9
    IGF-1: 282.0 Range 101-267 ng/ml I have never had this tested before..
    Cortisol: 7.5 Range 7-10am 6.2-19.4 4-8 pm 2.3-12.3 ug/dl

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    On my Droid but from what I see you look good!

    Liver enzymes are a bit high.

    Take any drugs or alcohol?

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    Your getting tired as your T peaked and is sliding down. Some people are fine with weekly injections, others do better splitting their weekly dose in half and injecting every 3.5 days. More stable levels and I'd bet you'd avoid those tired feelings. I'm curious what brought your DHEA level up? Did you start supplementing? Time to get your lipids in order. Exercise, nutrition, etc. Overall though I agree, your levels do look good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    On my Droid but from what I see you look good!

    Liver enzymes are a bit high.

    Take any drugs or alcohol?
    No drugs, maybe two drinks a month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Your getting tired as your T peaked and is sliding down. Some people are fine with weekly injections, others do better splitting their weekly dose in half and injecting every 3.5 days. More stable levels and I'd bet you'd avoid those tired feelings. I'm curious what brought your DHEA level up? Did you start supplementing? Time to get your lipids in order. Exercise, nutrition, etc. Overall though I agree, your levels do look good!
    I planned on doing 2 a week but did not want to switch anything up before meeting new doctor. I was very curious how the test cyp was going to work after being on Androgel for so long..

    DHEA I started 50 mg a day after last test results along with 5000iu's of D3, I also added the red rice yeast as GD suggest for cholesterol but that didn't have much effect... Maybe need something else?

    I do feel better, my levels will also increase with the hcg correct? Perhaps that small bump up on my levels along with twice a week injections will keep me more leveled out and feel better..

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    Just a little update: I had blood work done Friday AM also fasted for my local primary care, he is the one that has been attempting to resolve my low t issues.
    Here are those results.

    Drawn 11/30/2012 7am

    Glucose Serum: 100 Range 65-99 mg/dL
    Lipid Panel
    total Cholesterol: 175 Range 100-199 mg/dL
    Triglycerides: 70 Range 0-149 mg/dL
    HDL: 33 Range >39 mg/dL
    LDL: 128 Range 0-99 mg/dL
    VLDL Chol Calc: 14 Range 5-40 mg/dL
    and last but not least
    Testosterone Serum: 549 Range 348-1197 ng/dL

    Glucose spkie probably from the large amount of Mc Donalds I ate that night before fasting, possibly the large strawberry shake??? But triglycerides are in mid range now as apposed to 2 days earlier over range??? Is this also just poor diet?

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    Do you take any sport or bodybuilding supplements?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HRTstudent View Post
    Do you take any sport or bodybuilding supplements?
    2-Aleve
    2-men's multi vitamin
    2100 mg of Arginine Ethyl Ester HCL
    1000mg L-Arginine
    BCAA's L-Leucine 1200mg/ L-Valine 600mg/ L-Isoleucine 600mg... Ran out of these about 3weeks ago
    2000mg Glucosamine with MSM switched to these from the ones that had vitamin d added.
    2400 mg Fish oil/ 720 mg
    1- red yeast rice with CoQ-10
    1- simplex M ( standard process brand)
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    New protocol is here and started today..




    Testosterone treatment, test cyp with zinc compounded.
    .6 mL (120mg) once a week

    HCG (I am going by GD's thread for dosage) doctor didnt reference what my dose was..
    mixed 5000 IU vial with 2 mL water.
    Inject with insulin syringe (30g 5/16) drawn to 2 mark (500iu's??)
    2 days before and 1 day before

    Take 1 .5 mg anastrozole (gel capsule) day after test injection

    Iodorol 12.5 daily

    Compounded Sermorelin
    Sermorelin 4.5mg GHRP 4.5mg This will hopefully aid me in sleeping
    This was mixed with 4.5 mL water
    I am to inject this nightly before bed
    Insulin syringe drawn to 15 units which is 150mcg


    I guess time will be the true teller.. Looking forward to being on a properly managed protocol...

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    Congrats on finding a good Doc!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug350SD View Post
    New protocol is here and started today..




    Testosterone treatment, test cyp with zinc compounded.
    .6 mL (120mg) once a week

    HCG (I am going by GD's thread for dosage) doctor didnt reference what my dose was..
    mixed 5000 IU vial with 2 mL water.
    Inject with insulin syringe (30g 5/16) drawn to 2 mark (500iu's??)
    2 days before and 1 day before

    Take 1 .5 mg anastrozole (gel capsule) day after test injection

    Iodorol 12.5 daily

    Compounded Sermorelin
    Sermorelin 4.5mg GHRP 4.5mg This will hopefully aid me in sleeping
    This was mixed with 4.5 mL water
    I am to inject this nightly before bed
    Insulin syringe drawn to 15 units which is 150mcg


    I guess time will be the true teller.. Looking forward to being on a properly managed protocol...

    Looks good to me.

    Keep a log here in this thread on your progress.

    Happy for you Doug, you got good care!

    gd

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    Just a quick update, adjusted my evening dose as the dose I to from dr office was not correct, I have 5 bottles mixed with 4.5ml of bac water, supposed to last 3 months, well at the dose the assistant gave me .15 this would last well past 3 months, .25 is the correct dose for 90 days...

    At 25 units on my 1ml insulin syringe I am now SLEEPING! Wooohoooo!
    After many years of minimal sleep I am now getting 5 nonstop hours of sleep 2 days consistent and last night I slept 6.5 hours, I waited until it was multiple nights consistent as usually I would get 1 night of sleep a month due to exhaustion..
    This is great and I feel awesome in the morning...

    This is week 3 on new protocol, the test is definitely taking effect as my daily energy is coming back, the ready to stop at noon 1 o clock is gone and I have no problem staying active til 9-10pm...
    I do believe the hcg is playing a strong role in not getting the down hill feeling at end of week as was the issue on my last protocol with out hcg..
    I am still running the hcg 2 days prior to test and only 1 test IM per week, think I will run this for another couple weeks then switch up to sub q test 2 days and hcg 3 days a week..

    Haven't hit the gym in over a month, since I went on the clomid restart as my motivation dropped as my test levels crashed, however I do believe this week coming I will return and get back to making progress with the powerlifting I started prior..

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