Will a "restart" work for someone who never took AAS?

[louie2400]

I have been on clomid 25mg EOD for about a month and just stopped taking due to the sides. At the end of the month my total test was raised to 560. What are the chances that I remain at this level after I stop taking clomid. I have always heard that restarts are more for those that took AAS or other performance stuff. Since I haven't ever taken any AAS and am "naturally" secondary hypo, do you think I can be "restarted"? I want to figure this out before I move on to HCG mono or T shots +HCG.

[Allaaro]

It doesn't really matter that much. If your shutdown your shutdown....but people on AAS cycles usually have good hormones pre-cycle to come back to. If your levels suck pre clomid, it might restart you but honestly it's unlikely. You could also stay on low dosage clomid now as a treatment 24/7...but I don't like that option. I think your best bet is HCG mono, but even that doesn't work most of the time....not trying to discourage you, just telling you the facts that T shots might be what solves your low T.

[bass]

^^^ I agree with Allaaro, hCG mono therapy is definitely worth a try, I'd take it for at least 3 months at 250 iu eod, then move on from there.

[louie2400]

It doesn't really matter that much. If your shutdown your shutdown....but people on AAS cycles usually have good hormones pre-cycle to come back to. If your levels suck pre clomid, it might restart you but honestly it's unlikely. You could also stay on low dosage clomid now as a treatment 24/7...but I don't like that option. I think your best bet is HCG mono, but even that doesn't work most of the time....not trying to discourage you, just telling you the facts that T shots might be what solves your low T.

Yeah long term clomid is definitely not an option for me, I felt way too depressed on it. I have been off it for about 4 days now and already feel relieved of the depressed sides I was getting. I am thinking about not doing anything for 30 days and see how I feel at the end of 30 days before I do anything else, we'll see though. I also might get retested.

^^^ I agree with Allaaro, hCG mono therapy is definitely worth a try, I'd take it for at least 3 months at 250 iu eod, then move on from there.

How long after I stop clomid would you guys think my T levels will start to drop and go back to pre-clomid levels. Within a few days, weeks?
My Dr prescribed me to a pretty high dose of HCG @ 1500iu three times a week for 4 weeks and then test levels and adjust. I have seen others prescribed this same dose to start out, but it does seem high. What do you think?

[bass]

hCG has been subscribed at those doses for fertility reasons but not sure for restart! as for clomid, it varies from person to person, for me it took about 8 weeks to drop to my base line.

[louie2400]

@bass

Yeah it does seem like a high does, but am probably going to go with it for a while. He's a urologist that seems to know his stuff. I haven't started it yet though. I'm going to see how long the positive effects of the clomid last for now that I have stopped taking it. I know it has a half life of 5-7 days and it normally takes 4-5 half lives to totally rid the body of a medication once steady state is achieved. At this point I just have to wait it out I guess.

For the first 4 days after stopping the clomid I felt pretty darn good, but this morning I woke up feeling like crap (similar to pre-clomid status), but I am hoping it is a fluke. I have also thought about getting a fertility sperm test to see where I stand in that arena. I kind of wish I would have gotten one before starting clomid to provide my "natural" fertility level without the influence of clomid. I'm still thinking about getting one in a week or so before I start HCG or T shots +HCG if I do.