Nebido (testosterone undecanoate) - Possible to inject SubQ?

**Renholder** · 01-22-2013, 01:03 PM

Hello all,

Does anyone know if it's possible to inject Nebido SubQ?

What I had in mind was to inject it ED or EOD.

Nebido uses caster oil, which may or may not be an advantage over the other esters. However, Nebido has a half-life of 90 days, which may be a problem.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Renholder

**The Deadlifting Dog** · 01-22-2013, 01:53 PM

Why would you want to inject it ED or EOD? The beauty of Nebido is it's long half-life that allows one to avoid frequent injections.

**Renholder** · 01-22-2013, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog

Why would you want to inject it ED or EOD? The beauty of Nebido is it's long half-life that allows one to avoid frequent injections.

A low frequency of injections is certainly a beautiful thing, but I also think it is very challenging to keep levels stable. In particular, my E2 seems to spike a lot after an injection.

I have libido issues (inconsistent) and I want more control over my levels.

I may be going back on HCG mono EOD or even gels, but if I can use Nebido SubQ, I'm interested in that.

So, does anyone know?

**kelkel** · 01-22-2013, 05:20 PM

No clue but I agree entirely with DD. Personally I can't wait to try it when it crosses the pond. Give it time and dial it in Ren! Testosterone is not the only factor when it comes to libido.

Marcus has a great thread on Nebido. Search it up if you haven't read it.

**Renholder** · 01-23-2013, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by kelkel

No clue but I agree entirely with DD. Personally I can't wait to try it when it crosses the pond. Give it time and dial it in Ren! Testosterone is not the only factor when it comes to libido.

Marcus has a great thread on Nebido. Search it up if you haven't read it.

I don't have any more time. Life is passing by every minute and I can't simply keep hoping things will be better.

I know there are some who do great on Nebido, but I also know several who have trouble with the dosing and elevated E2 shortly after the shot. With frequent injections, although more trouble, you have more control.

I'm learning that testosterone is even largely irrelevant in many cases for libido, but the T/E2 ratio is probably important.

Regards,

Renholder

**milord** · 01-25-2013, 06:24 AM

Originally Posted by Renholder

I don't have any more time. Life is passing by every minute and I can't simply keep hoping things will be better.

I know there are some who do great on Nebido, but I also know several who have trouble with the dosing and elevated E2 shortly after the shot. With frequent injections, although more trouble, you have more control.

I'm learning that testosterone is even largely irrelevant in many cases for libido, but the T/E2 ratio is probably important.

Regards,

Renholder

Hi again

my testosterone level one day befor injection was 466 after injecting nebido 1 week passed it my estrogen went to the upper limit (50) my testosterone was at 1085. after 2 weeks of the injection my testosterone went down on 782 and my estrogen climbed even further it was on 60ng/dl . Nebido is not working for me. I need frequent shots of nebido 8 or 16 days period. I have a thread i will post there my results. My doc proscribed me proviron which im not gonna take, i rather get adex to take car of estrogen for now, but in the future im not suppose to take neither adex nor anything else while on trt.

**Renholder** · 01-26-2013, 11:45 AM

Very interesting. This perfectly illustrates my own concerns.

Are you currently taking 8 or 16 day injections?

I will probably be trying that myself, if I don't go on gel, although SubQ would be even better.

**marcus300** · 01-26-2013, 11:53 AM

use nebido as prescribe, normally 8-12 weeks protocols IM innjection. Use it properly and you wont have any issuse. It been studied for over 15 yrs so they know whats best..

**Renholder** · 01-26-2013, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

use nebido as prescribe, normally 8-12 weeks protocols IM innjection. Use it properly and you wont have any issuse. It been studied for over 15 yrs so they know whats best..

Are you assuming every person on earth responds exactly the same way to Nebido? Surely you can't be making that assumption...

I have used it according to official protocol including the six week frontloading since late of May and I have had issues. Only in November did I start feeling better and that came to be after I quit drinking coffee (which I drank huge amounts of) after discovering high cortisol.

**Renholder** · 02-03-2013, 05:17 PM

Bump!

A friend of mine already started SubQ weekly injections and I will probably follow after the coming week.

Stay tuned.

**lacey23** · 02-03-2013, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by Renholder

A low frequency of injections is certainly a beautiful thing, but I also think it is very challenging to keep levels stable. In particular, my E2 seems to spike a lot after an injection.

I have libido issues (inconsistent) and I want more control over my levels.

I may be going back on HCG mono EOD or even gels, but if I can use Nebido SubQ, I'm interested in that.

So, does anyone know?

Originally Posted by Renholder

I don't have any more time. Life is passing by every minute and I can't simply keep hoping things will be better.

I know there are some who do great on Nebido, but I also know several who have trouble with the dosing and elevated E2 shortly after the shot. With frequent injections, although more trouble, you have more control.

I'm learning that testosterone is even largely irrelevant in many cases for libido, but the T/E2 ratio is probably important.

Regards,

Renholder

If you are thinking about going to HCG mono, I'm not sure it would be a good idea to start a protocol of a drug that has a half life of 90 days. First (if you are going to give it a real try) it is going to take a while to get stabalized. Then, if you decide to stop using it, and go to another protocol, it will take quite a while to go get it all out of your system before you can properly evaluate the new protocol.

If you want more control of your levels, why not go to something like test prop ED, or test cyp EoD? Then you don't have to wait forever to evaluate the protocol, or get off the protocol.

If you are learning that libido is effected by other things rather than testosterone, why don't you explore those things intead? I don't think you will notice anything inherently better about test from nibido vs. other exogenous sources.

**Renholder** · 02-04-2013, 06:19 AM

Originally Posted by lacey23

If you are thinking about going to HCG mono, I'm not sure it would be a good idea to start a protocol of a drug that has a half life of 90 days. First (if you are going to give it a real try) it is going to take a while to get stabalized. Then, if you decide to stop using it, and go to another protocol, it will take quite a while to go get it all out of your system before you can properly evaluate the new protocol.

If you want more control of your levels, why not go to something like test prop ED, or test cyp EoD? Then you don't have to wait forever to evaluate the protocol, or get off the protocol.

If you are learning that libido is effected by other things rather than testosterone, why don't you explore those things intead? I don't think you will notice anything inherently better about test from nibido vs. other exogenous sources.

I have not decided, but I think maybe I'll wait with HCG mono as I can't risk crashing right now. Generally, I'm not feeling too bad lately, which is a tremendous improvement.

I don't have access to prop or cyp. Maaaaybe I could get enanthate , but it's not on the list of official medications here in Norway, so I'm stuck with Nebido.

Libido is a mystery still, so it's not very easy to explore, but I'm trying. The only thing I'm convinced of is that T levels are largely irrelevant, save when T levels in fact are VERY low.

Thanks for your answer.

**flyrs** · 02-09-2013, 06:00 PM

It would be best imo if someone that would like to try Nebido would trade you for their cyp and you could both be happy....I wrote this so that maybe someone will PM you that deal......

**Renholder** · 02-10-2013, 06:51 AM

I live in Norway, so I don't think that would be too easy, although it would work for me.

Right now I pay out of the pocket, so it would not make a difference if I were to use enanthate , except that it is a special order here in Norway.

I'm starting tomorrow. A friend of mine already started and reports feeling better and have no issues with SubQ injections.

**Renholder** · 02-19-2013, 04:03 PM

Still waiting for Marcus' answer to my questions.

FWIW, I started Nebido SubQ last week.

**BigIce** · 03-10-2013, 06:59 AM

I am on Nebido and feel great. I just feel normal. No ED issues or any sides from being on TRT

I find that occasionally using Testogel gives me a huge increase in libido.

There is more to libido that just T levels IMO. Possibly the fluctuations in E2 and T levels from using Testogel for a few days is just what is needed to get that increased "drive". I am like a 16 year old after a couple of days and it lasts.

I have been coming less and less to check out this forum. I think it is because Nebido has fixed all my problems and I no longer think about this kind of stuff.
But it has a down side, it takes a long time to get it dialed in. I am going to shorten the interval between shots from 8 weeks down to 7 weeks. A guy I work with has them every 6 weeks. So perhaps you need to talk to your doctor and ask him to stop looking at your blood levels and more into how you feel, and if you have any sides from high T or E2 levels and adjust your dose according to that.

I am on board with Marcus. Nebido is an awesome solution to our problems. It just takes time.