TRT Bloat..?

[Scottish-Muscle]

Long story short, I came off Nebido as for some bizzare reason it was coming out my system within just 3 weeks which was confirmed by blood tests and obviously making me crash. Switched to sustanon 250, however only receiving every 3 weeks which is totally useless as my sex drive will increase then crash off and I feel like a pile of crap, so I improvised and added in a 250mg of test e, so trt works out to be a jab every 11 days or so. This has kept me feeling a lot better, my sex drive is a lot better and overall I feel good.

Here's the problem. I am very lean, as in sub 10% all year round. Ever since starting the sust I have became "bloated" Im still lean by all accounts but my stomach mainly is very watery it's almost like I've lost 10 stone and I've got loose skin, further to that moon face etc. I really need this bloat gone!

I have had my estrogen tested and im just waiting for the results, however the endo is unlikely to give me an AI. I have aromasin anyway. What im aiming to do is just stabilize my levels so that my estro is normal. I don't want to kill my estro off completely as we all need a certain amount floating around, but just normal so the water goes away? tabs are dosed at 25mg. Im reckoning possibly 12.5mg per week based on the trt?

Alternative I was thinking maybe proviron at 100-150mg per day could help? Thanks.

[HRTstudent]

How much total testosterone are you taking per week?

Sounds like it could be elevated E2, test results will help you figure that out.

[Scottish-Muscle]

Say about 165mg per week? Although that's with the ester attached so not sure what the total test would be.
I'll have results tomorrow of E2.... Was thinking of firing 100mg proviron in any how?

[Bio-Active]

Say about 165mg per week? Although that's with the ester attached so not sure what the total test would be.
I'll have results tomorrow of E2.... Was thinking of firing 100mg proviron in any how?

Once you have the results it will be easier to bail this down but how is your sodium intake?

[Scottish-Muscle]

Once you have the results it will be easier to bail this down but how is your sodium intake?

Pretty low mate. Around 4-5 liters of water a day standard. I don't drink alcohol. Macros roughly 300 protein, 200 carb, 80 fat. Food very clean. If it helps I was weighed and since around mid december to start of feb I've put on around 13 pounds. Now body fat I can't see it as im very lean all year round anyway and im not consuming enough calories to put on much fat if any. So I can only put down a couple of pounds of muscle and the rest water.... I have gained a fair amount of mass, but I have noticed the water retention. One day my arms are full very dry and veiny the next im smooth all over. If it adds to it I usually always have striations over my shoulders and chest, veins down legs and abs. But this is very seldom now. It comes and goes, one day I can be very dry but that only happens about once a week. Rest of the time im a sponge! Plus my face seems to go up and down like a yo yo, one day defined jaw line next look like im 20 stone ffs.

[Scottish-Muscle]

Somethings defo off.... Water logged to hell, was training today and im not a sweaty person at all even when going at it hard. I looked like I was just out of a shower 5 mins in, soaked thru.... dizzy as well.

It's been 2 and a half weeks and my blood tests still ain't back. So started proviron on monday @ 100mg for 2 months see what happens.

[Scottish-Muscle]

Just bumping this.Still not had my endo results back, think they have lost them fs. Been 2-3 weeks. Was holding back off starting AI till I had estro but im 110% sure the estro is v high.

Been on proviron for around 5 days @ 50mg. Things are worse! somethings wrong!. Im sweating absolute buckets! and I mean buckets, constant. Im very bloated distended stomach and the skin on my stomach and chest looks, more so stomach looks like I've been about 30 stone it wobbles like hell you can pull it very watery looks like loose skin wtf? Bear in mind I am very ripped all year round!

Anyway im very lethargic as well, struggle to get out of bed so sleepy and heavy eyes.... When I train I struggle, I start sweating profusely and as a result im soaked within 5 minutes start feeling very dizzy and end up being sick so I can't train properly not sure what the fk is going on. Thought it was the proviron helping to lower estro so the water coming out but the water comes out and just replaces again....

Next step would be aromasin @ 12.5mg eod.
Step after that anavar and masteron thrown in....

[kelkel]

Proviron's basically DHT and is a weak anti-estrogen at best. Bug your doctor for results. 12.5 mg aromasin eod would be too high for TRT.

[Scottish-Muscle]

Have phoned and will see if it comes back but think they lost them and to get them done again takes a further 2-3 weeks....
Aromasin at 25mg per week? Or tamoxifen any use?

[kelkel]

12.5 eod is a cycle dosage. You don't need that. Also a sensitive e2 assay should not take that long. If you choose to start an AI start as low as possible until you have results back from your test as right now you're assuming that it's the cause. Nolvadex is a SERM and not an AI and will only block estrogen from binding to your chest receptors. It will do nothing for overall levels.

[austinite]

Have phoned and will see if it comes back but think they lost them and to get them done again takes a further 2-3 weeks....
Aromasin at 25mg per week? Or tamoxifen any use?

They lost your blood work results? Did I understand this correctly?

[Scottish-Muscle]

They lost your blood work results? Did I understand this correctly?

Well nothing is coming back. When I was at dr the other day the checked the computer again I had test/estro levels done around 3 weeks ago and nothing back and they have no idea where they are. I also had liver function etc (diff condition) done around 2 weeks ago and they are nowhere to be found which is pretty important as im on chemo drugs and liver is under strain....

Anyway phoned endo clinic, said they will have a look for my results and phone me back, been 2 hours and nothing so phoned back and just rings out. Pricks.

Self medicating is the way forward tbh. Going to cancel them off, and just run test e at 250mg every 11-12 days. I get my blood monitored via hospital anyway for everything from kidney to liver function. Will keep blood pressure in check also.

Anyway I'll run aromasin for now, it can only be water ret as nothing else makes sense. 25mg a week sounds low enough? if not then 12.5mg? I need this bloat off asap.

[kelkel]

You need a proper E2 sensitive assay asap....

[Scottish-Muscle]

You need a proper E2 sensitive assay asap....

Doesn't look like im going to get it though. And I don't have time to wait around like this as I feel total crap plus look crappy. So i'd rather just fire something in now and see what happens.