Asprin to thin blood?

[GeriatricOne]

I am considering adding a nightly dose of baby aspirin to thin the blood. Any concerns with Testosterone , HCG , and Anastrozole?
I give whole blood every 60 days, but still feel the negative effects of high red blood cell counts on intense cardio exercise.

[HRTstudent]

This would be something to talk to your doctor about....

Personally, I would wonder if your dose is too high if donating every 60 days cannot keep your hematocrit under control.

[GeriatricOne]

Thanks HRT. I will ask the doctor.

Giving blood does help. But toward the end of the 60 days as the levels are increasing again I feel the effects of the sluggish blood when practicing CrossFit where the cardio intensity is high and into the anaerobic ranges.

[Peer]

please take at least 81mg aspirin daily
irrespective of current cycle is gives an absolute risk reduction for stroke by 22% all comers, cardiac disease risk reduction of 32% and as high as 44% in caucasian men.
For cycling I am not comfortable with less than 81mg x 4 daily

[Times Roman]

my rbc is too high
so i donate eom
and take a baby aspirin

down side is I bleed a little easier now

[jimmyinkedup]

down side is I bleed a little easier now

Because aspirin doesn't thin the blood it reduces platelet aggregation- or clotting.
I take an 81 mg enteric aspirin daily as well.

[kelkel]

Because aspirin doesn't thin the blood it reduces platelet aggregation- or clotting.
I take an 81 mg enteric aspirin daily as well.

^^Yes! Also remember to keep your fluid intake high (water that is) as well.

[BallSak]

This would be something to talk to your doctor about....

Personally, I would wonder if your dose is too high if donating every 60 days cannot keep your hematocrit under control.

There is more to high hematocrit and hemoglobin than just testosterone . Namely, oxygen issues. Mine were both above range without any T administation.

[HRTstudent]

There is more to high hematocrit and hemoglobin than just testosterone. Namely, oxygen issues. Mine were both above range without any T administation.

That is true, but exogenous testosterone (androgens in general) is a known factor in raising hematocrit, so we must take it into account.

It's my personal opinion that I would rather lower my dose of T so that I don't need to donate so often or at all. There are consequences to losing so much blood so often, namely iron loss off the top of my head.

A single donation of whole blood dropped my ferritin by about 30'ish points. If the average man did that a few times in a short timeframe then he might deplete his irons stores unless he was combating that with a very iron rich diet or iron supplements.

It's something to think about.

[GeriatricOne]

HRT, I hear you about decreasing dose but my dose is steadily increasing as my serum levels are not consistent. I seem to metabolize the stuff rapidly. I get an injection on Monday, then Tuesday & Wednesday I feel pretty good. but then the well being tappers off sharply. Thats a second reason the dose is increasing; to extend duration of the effects. I am at 150 weekly now and heading upward from here, as long as free T stays at or below 20. I still don't understand what is so critical about 20.

[GeriatricOne]

Thanks for all the replies guys. I think I will try the baby aspirin for a while and see if I notice any positive effects during intense workouts.

[GeriatricOne]

^^Yes! Also remember to keep your fluid intake high (water that is) as well.

Very good point. Working on that too.

[BallSak]

That is true, but exogenous testosterone (androgens in general) is a known factor in raising hematocrit, so we must take it into account.

It's my personal opinion that I would rather lower my dose of T so that I don't need to donate so often or at all. There are consequences to losing so much blood so often, namely iron loss off the top of my head.

A single donation of whole blood dropped my ferritin by about 30'ish points. If the average man did that a few times in a short timeframe then he might deplete his irons stores unless he was combating that with a very iron rich diet or iron supplements.

It's something to think about.

This is all true. We all know T administration can raise hematocrit. The important point I was making is that you can't always blame testosterone for high hematocrit because there may be other important underlying issues that need addressed.

[BallSak]

Thanks for all the replies guys. I think I will try the baby aspirin for a while and see if I notice any positive effects during intense workouts.

Good call. I take my baby aspirin pre workout with my caffeine tablet. Been doing this for probably 7 years now.

[M302_Imola]

please take at least 81mg aspirin daily
irrespective of current cycle is gives an absolute risk reduction for stroke by 22% all comers, cardiac disease risk reduction of 32% and as high as 44% in caucasian men.
For cycling I am not comfortable with less than 81mg x 4 daily

You really take 4 (81mg aspirin) a day when on cycle?

[fireeater49]

HRT, I hear you about decreasing dose but my dose is steadily increasing as my serum levels are not consistent. I seem to metabolize the stuff rapidly. I get an injection on Monday, then Tuesday & Wednesday I feel pretty good. but then the well being tappers off sharply. Thats a second reason the dose is increasing; to extend duration of the effects. I am at 150 weekly now and heading upward from here, as long as free T stays at or below 20. I still don't understand what is so critical about 20.

I know for myself I would like to see studies of higher numbers than 20. Wondering if that is top because it was the average higher limit of the general population when the labs determined the ranges. Would be interesting like the issue of the half life of test cyp thing being absorbed in 7 days. Could it be better for 3 days? Heck pin every day. It can be confusing but seems to reason that it is a very personal thing with all the ranges and results. Sorry for the rambling.

[MisterD]

PEER

You correct in taking 4 baby aspirin when on a cycle. I was taking only 1 and this Tuesday i had a heart attack... I THANK THE LORD im here today.

Im going to do a separate thread on my stats and cycle so that people can really learn from my mistakes. Right now Im on heavy meds due to the 2 stents they put in me. So the doc says that the blood thinner and baby aspirin was a minimum for 1 year all the other blood pressure meds they would eventually ween me off.

My question goes out to the experienced HRT guys here....

My goal is to eventually go back to the gym as fast as the doc gives me the green light and does anyone know or has had the same experience as to TRT. My normal TRT protocol was 60mg of Cipoinate every 3.5 days and i was going to add the
HCG after this blast. Do you guys think Cardiologist will let me get back on my TRT ?

I appreciate your guys comments...

[Peer]

MisterD,
So sorry to hear of your MI, I did write a reply with medications mentioned but apparently my post count is not high enough.
So now you are on plavix 75mg and aspirin 81mg
I would hope they would allow restart or HRT as long as it stay in the normal range.
Best of Luck!!

[Peer]

You really take 4 (81mg aspirin) a day when on cycle?

Oh yeah, even considering increasing to 325 bid (twice a day)

If you have not guessed I am a physician, and I truly feel that aspirin is a wonder drug. Not only for its vascular protection but also for anti-tumor effects. It is used to prevent colon cancer in FAP and there was a study last year showing a marked reduction in recurrent breast cancer in women who took aspirin. Generally I feel anything that can reduce long term inflammation is good. Another great example are the statin medications.

[MisterD]

PEER

Since this just happen so recently they have me on
180mg of Brilinta
500mg of Niaspan
13mg of Coreg
20mg of Crestor
2.5mg of Zestril
800mg of Amiodarone
81mg of Aspirin

I would think they will ween me off everything except the Crestor and the baby aspirin.

Thanks for the reply

[GeriatricOne]

PEER

You correct in taking 4 baby aspirin when on a cycle. I was taking only 1 and this Tuesday i had a heart attack... I THANK THE LORD im here today.

So glad you are going to be okay! Wow! Scary

[GeriatricOne]

Oh yeah, even considering increasing to 325 bid (twice a day)

If you have not guessed I am a physician, and I truly feel that aspirin is a wonder drug. Not only for its vascular protection but also for anti-tumor effects. It is used to prevent colon cancer in FAP and there was a study last year showing a marked reduction in recurrent breast cancer in women who took aspirin. Generally I feel anything that can reduce long term inflammation is good. Another great example are the statin medications.

Why do you think the statin drugs are wonder drugs? The current seems to be changing on those due to new thinking about cholesterol.

[redhawk01]

For me personally, my statin use lead to my declining t levels. I could be wrong, but that's what I believe. I have no pre statin test levels, but into year 2, my t was high 300's, third year went down to low 200's. I was 43 when I started them, quit them last year. Still monitoring them, blood test in 2 weeks. Hopefully still looks good with diet change.

[MisterD]

Redhawk,

I thought the same.... Just monitor my bloodwork and i will be good. On the day of the heart attack my bad cholesterol was 185 but the good one was 6.

Dont just guide yourself with the bloodwork make sure you have a regular EKG done to check whats going on.

Some people dont check it cause like me im 41 and think its not necessary but I hope people learn from my mistakes.

[GFA]

If you have high hemoglobin, go see a blood doc (hematologist) and get it under control. I had a scary incident where my HG went to 20 and I was in the ER. I felt dizzy drunk with my HG at that level. I did a ton of blood lettings and now its down to 13.5.

[redhawk01]

Misterd: I'll look into it, thanks. Get better soon!