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Thread: Who here does test-only blast and cruise? What's your protocol?

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    Who here does test-only blast and cruise? What's your protocol?

    Sorry if I am mis-using the phrase "blast and cruise" - does that mean supraphysiological (cycle) levels followed by physiological (TRT) levels of test? I assume so but if I'm wrong let me know.

    Seems like the "average" TRT dose is around 100mg per week, ideally split into more frequent dosing than just weekly, like 2x a week or every 4-5 days, but equalling about 100mg of test a week.

    Also, seems like the "beginner cycle" amount is around 400mg test per week, again, ideally split into more frequent dosing than weekly.

    Does anyone here do this? How often do you "blast" or be on-cycle?

    Is it common to have the TRT dialed in so as to not require an AI, but when "blasting" they do take an AI? And then drop the AI again when "cruising"? is there an "average" AI dose like the "average" TRT and cycle dose when "blasting"?

    And how do you like the results? Worth it?
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    very interested in this as well, right now at 100 mg/week and no AI or hCG , with a test level of 920. What level of AI would I run at 200/week?, 300/week?, 400/week?

    This is all assuming that my E2 level is dialed in as well at the 100 mg/week dose, say in the 20's or 30's
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    Quote Originally Posted by booku View Post
    very interested in this as well, right now at 100 mg/week and no AI or hCG , with a test level of 920. What level of AI would I run at 200/week?, 300/week?, 400/week?

    This is all assuming that my E2 level is dialed in as well at the 100 mg/week dose, say in the 20's or 30's
    If you don't mend me asking, why are you on trt at 22? I'm about to turn 26 and my levels just came back pretty low and I'm trying to see if anyone around my age is on trt for more reasons besides maintaining gains after a cycle.

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    If you are looking at doing a blast then just pin yourself with whatever desired amount of Test you want split into 2 injections per week then when complete, resume your normal TRT protocol..

    If I were to do one this is how it would look..

    Week 1-15ish
    500mg Test Cyp split into 2- 250mg injects per week
    250iu hCG twice weekly
    .5mg A-Dex twice weekly

    Week 16-18
    Resume TRT Protocol
    250iu hCG twice weekly
    .5mg A-Dex Twice weekly

    Week 19- ??
    Bloodwork!
    TRT Protocol
    hCG
    A-Dex if need be..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ml87 View Post
    If you don't mend me asking, why are you on trt at 22? I'm about to turn 26 and my levels just came back pretty low and I'm trying to see if anyone around my age is on trt for more reasons besides maintaining gains after a cycle.
    On TRT at 23 because I had a testosterone level of 70 ng/dL and two endos and a urologist could not find a specific cause. Ruled out pretty much everything so this is the path I have taken

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    Quote Originally Posted by 38onTRT View Post
    If you are looking at doing a blast then just pin yourself with whatever desired amount of Test you want split into 2 injections per week then when complete, resume your normal TRT protocol..

    If I were to do one this is how it would look..

    Week 1-15ish
    500mg Test Cyp split into 2- 250mg injects per week
    250iu hCG twice weekly
    .5mg A-Dex twice weekly

    Week 16-18
    Resume TRT Protocol
    250iu hCG twice weekly
    .5mg A-Dex Twice weekly

    Week 19- ??
    Bloodwork!
    TRT Protocol
    hCG
    A-Dex if need be..
    +1 ... except I wouldnt get bloods done at week 19. I would wait a full two months after last cycle pin, allow your body to attain equilibrium before getting blood drawn...
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    i don't do Test only, I added in EQ and Tren during a 16 week blast, had ridiculous results, right back to TRT after blast, no PCT, no worries

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    Managing E2 will be your big issue. Avg adex amount for a 500mg cycle is .25 eod. Know what you're doing before you embark on this course of action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Managing E2 will be your big issue. Avg adex amount for a 500mg cycle is .25 eod. Know what you're doing before you embark on this course of action.
    He could be quite a bit different though. I convert to E2 super slow... even on a large blast I was only taking .5mg AI a week and was under control. Point being, Kel is right, and making sure you know that E2 level is huge. High E2 form the elevated Test can completely eliminate all of the felt benefits of the high Test

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    Read an article that stated the average Test. level of men has been dropping since the 60's. Suspected culprit is the type of plastics used in water bottles, pop, and the inside of food cans. Produces what I believe they called Xenoestrogens. I stay away from the bottled water and def. pop!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Managing E2 will be your big issue. Avg adex amount for a 500mg cycle is .25 eod. Know what you're doing before you embark on this course of action.
    So at what point in the blast would you want to get the E2 sensitive assay to see if that extra test is converting over too much? Week 2?

    And, I guess this is a dumb question, but how do you handle this with the doctor? Obviously he will know what's up if you ask for more test and BW, and if he's looking at the BW. Do guys usually get a "non-legit" second source for the blast and then do BW by drawing their own blood and mailing it in anonymously?

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    Can just use a UGL and Labcorp with:

    https://www.privatemdlabs.com/

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