My meds are on the way!

[dawg4life]

Hey, I have felt like crap for about 8 months so decided to go through privatelabsmd and get blood work done last week. As I assumed my T came in at low(330)! I took the plunge and emailed my results to enternity Health Md(no health insurance) and of course "qualified" for TRT. My 2 vials of Depo Test, HCG 11,000 units, anastrozole, and pins are on the way! I'm nervous and excited.

My question is do you guys with experience think that pinning twice a week versus once really make a difference? I'm just nervous about self-injecting and of course want to minimize it.

[Trific]

Of course it makes a difference else we wouldn't do it....that said I think I would start out at twice per week because it is extra help in the beginning when you need it...but it is an individual experience so maybe in time you'll decide that you prefer pinning only once per week...some do.

Got any thyroid labs...it often needs help?

[dawg4life]

Of course it makes a difference else we wouldn't do it....that said I think I would start out at twice per week because it is extra help in the beginning when you need it...but it is an individual experience so maybe in time you'll decide that you prefer pinning only once per week...some do.

Got any thyroid labs...it often needs help?

No, I did the el cheapo female hormone panel test. Should I go ahead and get some more blood work done before my 1st pin on Monday? If so what is the cheapest blood lab order to get every test that I need? The male hormone panel is like $170 and I know I'll be needing more blood work in 6 weeks!

Also, should I just try the test only for a while or go ahead with HCG? I'm going to lay off the Anastrozole until I see how everything goes.

[Trific]

I'd start with both the test and the HCG, but that's imo...the rest of the stuff you and your doc need to decide and read these threads and see what worked for others.....don't wanna make every decision for you....

[bertgamble]

Best of luck to you. I am new to this as well, and I made some mistakesearly.

Make sure you have your measurement right when you draw. I didn't know how to do it right, and now I am running out of testosterone because I was using too much.

After you draw what you think is the right amount, pull the pin out of the vial and draw air in (while pointing the needle upward) until the meniscus of the oil is at the 1 ml mark. Then read where your plunger is. You should see that you have about .1 to .2ml more than you intended, depending on needle size. Point the needle downward and push the overdosage back into the vial. If you leave a little air bubble, you can get all of the testosterone out of the needle when you inject.

.2ml X 2 times per week for 6 weeks is 2.4mls. You can see how this can be a problem.

[HRTstudent]

What protocol did they prescribe to you?

[dawg4life]

Best of luck to you. I am new to this as well, and I made some mistakesearly.

Make sure you have your measurement right when you draw. I didn't know how to do it right, and now I am running out of testosterone because I was using too much.

After you draw what you think is the right amount, pull the pin out of the vial and draw air in (while pointing the needle upward) until the meniscus of the oil is at the 1 ml mark. Then read where your plunger is. You should see that you have about .1 to .2ml more than you intended, depending on needle size. Point the needle downward and push the overdosage back into the vial. If you leave a little air bubble, you can get all of the testosterone out of the needle when you inject.

.2ml X 2 times per week for 6 weeks is 2.4mls. You can see how this can be a problem.

Thanks, yes that can get expensive!

[steroid.com 1]

I am confused; you are going on a TRT protocol based on lab results there were designed and calibrated for a women's hormonal levels?

Just to point out, it's why we tell every man on here to get the Estradiol "Sensitive" essay and not the default lab standard as it's designed for women and overly estimates a mans E2 levels.

How do you know all the labs you have can have the same effect???

[Rusty11]

What protocol did they prescribe to you?

Good question.
While I'm happy for you. Stuff like this concerns me a bit. Get bw, email it in, get meds. No direct contact with a Doctor?? No instructions on injections?? How do you/they know you need an AI??
Anyway, educate yourself and good luck.

[steroid.com 1]

Best of luck to you. I am new to this as well, and I made some mistakesearly.

Make sure you have your measurement right when you draw. I didn't know how to do it right, and now I am running out of testosterone because I was using too much.

After you draw what you think is the right amount, pull the pin out of the vial and draw air in (while pointing the needle upward) until the meniscus of the oil is at the 1 ml mark. Then read where your plunger is. You should see that you have about .1 to .2ml more than you intended, depending on needle size. Point the needle downward and push the overdosage back into the vial. If you leave a little air bubble, you can get all of the testosterone out of the needle when you inject.

.2ml X 2 times per week for 6 weeks is 2.4mls. You can see how this can be a problem.

This tiny amount will not cause a problem whatsoever.

Test peaks at about 72 hours with a 5 to 6 day half life so the 6 weeks is irrelevant...and given that MAYBE 70% of what's injected actually makes it into the bloodstream this minuscule amount is nothing and I wouldn't be pulling and pushing needles in out of vials because of it as you risk contamination of the needle not discounting dulling as well.

Just do your injection protocol as instructed.

[dawg4life]

I am confused; you are going on a TRT protocol based on lab results there were designed and calibrated for a women's hormonal levels?

Just to point out, it's why we tell every man on here to get the Estradiol "Sensitive" essay and not the default lab standard as it's designed for women and overly estimates a mans E2 levels.

How do you know all the labs you have can have the same effect???

"Getting bloodwork done, whether it be on-cycle or post-cycle, is always strongly recommended when running any type of AAS cycle. However, many people often neglect to do this based on cost, and the fact that a doctor visit is usually required.

Here is how to get bloodwork done very cheaply by scheduling your blood panel on-line, without going to the doctor, and without the need for medical insurance. The testing will be done by Labcorp, so as long as you can get to a Labcorp office, you can use this option. There is a trick to getting this done cheaply, so read on.

***Please note that this option will not work in NY, NJ, or RI due to state medical billing laws***

"Here is the trick. Go to privatemdlabs.com and select the hormone panel for females. This test comes with a CMP (liver, kidney values and more), CBC (blood counts), total Testosterone, total Estrogen, LH and FSH.

I have done this a few times before and all your reference ranges come back based on males once you enter in all the info that the lab co wants.

Also use the discount code ______ (search internet for current discount codes, can usually find a 15% off). Total should come to roughly 50 dollars.

They use labcorp so just select a location nearest you. You can also make an appointment to have blood drawn, which many people don't know. Just go to their website (labcorp) to do so after you paid for the bloodwork.

If you go on a weekday (except friday) you will have your results emailed to you the next day most likely as they are that fast as effff!!!!

The only thing missing is a lipid profile, which you could add on if you so choose.

So STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR NOT GETTING BLOODWORK DONE!!!!!!!!! You most likely won't be able to beat this price even if you do have insurance!!!!

So take advantage of the loophole I found as the male hormonal panel costs about 150 dollars!!!!!"

- Credit to user "heavydeadlifts" on PHF.

For $50 lousy bucks, you can get everything you'd want tested after a cycle (except lipids, which as mentioned can be added for $47.99 retail, before discounts): liver and kidney function, HPTA, estrogen, etc.

Note from Me : I have personally used this a few times, as well as friends. It's a good service and they are VERY quick.

So no more excuses, no more guessing at problems during PCT, no more self-medicating without medical confirmation of an issue; if you are mature enough to cycle, then be mature enough to protect your health."

I saw this on another forum and thats why I went with the female test. My Estradiol came in at 14.2.

[Bonaparte]

This tiny amount will not cause a problem whatsoever.

Test peaks at about 72 hours with a 5 to 6 day half life so the 6 weeks is irrelevant...and given that MAYBE 70% of what's injected actually makes it into the bloodstream this minuscule amount is nothing and I wouldn't be pulling and pushing needles in out of vials because of it as you risk contamination of the needle not discounting dulling as well.

Just do your injection protocol as instructed.

?
Every bit of it gets into your bloodstream. It is just that 32% of that Test Cyp is comprised of inert ester weight.

[steroid.com 1]

^^^^Correct, probably should have worded it better now that I look at it again.

Directly from Dr. John Crisler's recently revised paper on TRT: A Recipe for Success. It can found many other places as well, it's well known.

"When considering dosing of testosterone cypionate, it is important to remember that, due to the weight of the cypionate ester, a 100mg injection delivers, at best, 70mg of testosterone. This is important to keep in mind when comparing the effects of a 100mg weekly injection of test cyp to the 35mg total initial dose provided by Androgel/Testim 5gms QD over the same period".

That was my point.

[dawg4life]

^^^^Correct, probably should have worded it better now that I look at it again.

Directly from Dr. John Crisler's recently revised paper on TRT: A Recipe for Success. It can found many other places as well, it's well known.

"When considering dosing of testosterone cypionate, it is important to remember that, due to the weight of the cypionate ester, a 100mg injection delivers, at best, 70mg of testosterone. This is important to keep in mind when comparing the effects of a 100mg weekly injection of test cyp to the 35mg total initial dose provided by Androgel/Testim 5gms QD over the same period".

That was my point.

G, do you ever blast while on TRT and what dose a week and for how long? Do you keep the HCG dose at 200 EOD, just like normal TRT week? I think I'm going to blast in a month...

[Trific]

G, do you ever blast while on TRT and what dose a week and for how long? Do you keep the HCG dose at 200 EOD, just like normal TRT week? I think I'm going to blast in a month...

You aren't even close to being dialed in yet....way too soon to blast.

[steroid.com 1]

G, do you ever blast while on TRT and what dose a week and for how long? Do you keep the HCG dose at 200 EOD, just like normal TRT week? I think I'm going to blast in a month...

Never ran a cycle and doubt I ever will. Just 60 mg of T Cyp twice a week for years now.

HCG is 250 iu Mon, Wed and Fri and it suites me just fine.

No need for an AI anymore with this protocol.

[powerlifterty16]

people here are on trt because without their lives' suck....you shouldnt abuse your trt. If you want to blast id suggest you use that one lab others are using where the top of the ref range is at 1700 and just try to get there, but dont go trying to get higher.

G, do you ever blast while on TRT and what dose a week and for how long? Do you keep the HCG dose at 200 EOD, just like normal TRT week? I think I'm going to blast in a month...

[dawg4life]

people here are on trt because without their lives' suck....you shouldnt abuse your trt. If you want to blast id suggest you use that one lab others are using where the top of the ref range is at 1700 and just try to get there, but dont go trying to get higher.

10-4

[VTX1800]

So you state that you felt like crap for the past 8 months, now your gettin your levels in check with TRT. Your starting to feel better and now you want to jeopardize everything you have worked for so you can blast in a month? Your gonna end up right back where you started. It's a revolving door, sure you experience gains while blasting but judging by your posts your setting yourself up for a major setback.

Do as you wish my friend, just think about how miserable life was for the past 8 months. Take care of your self.

[powerlifterty16]

10-4

huh?

[Trific]

huh?

What is 10-4?

10-4 is "Understood, OK"

[VTX1800]

huh?

Ohhhh gooood looooorrrrd.

[powerlifterty16]

Ohhhh gooood looooorrrrd.

i can say the same for you buddy.

[powerlifterty16]

thanks i wasn't sure what it meant.

What is 10-4?

10-4 is "Understood, OK"

[dawg4life]

thanks i wasn't sure what it meant.

I'm taking a wild guess that you've never been in the trucking industry. Ha! Ha!

I'm getting the run around from my clinic. Seems that a "new" law started on Monday that requires a physical within the last 6 months. Wouldn't you know I had one 8 months ago! I went to the doc a couple of months ago due to depression though and he tood BP and recorded weight and height. My Clinic is checking to see if that will work. If not I'm asking for a refund and going with L0wtestosterone.com. I checked plane ticket prices and I go fly out to Houston and back for $307.

[VTX1800]

i can say the same for you buddy.

On a side note, I'm not your buddy. 10-4! Hahaha breaker breaker, C'MON! Lol

[Rusty11]

What is 10-4?

10-4 is "Understood, OK"

Roger That.

[Trific]

I'm taking a wild guess that you've never been in the trucking industry. Ha! Ha!
I'm getting the run around from my clinic. Seems that a "new" law started on Monday that requires a physical within the last 6 months. Wouldn't you know I had one 8 months ago! I went to the doc a couple of months ago due to depression though and he tood BP and recorded weight and height. My Clinic is checking to see if that will work. If not I'm asking for a refund and going with L0wtestosterone.com. I checked plane ticket prices and I go fly out to Houston and back for $307.

They would reimburse that $307 anyhow wouldn't they? Curious to see if your depression will nicely go away after replacing your missing T?

[dawg4life]

They would reimburse that $307 anyhow wouldn't they? Curious to see if your depression will nicely go away after replacing your missing T?

They will reimburse up to $300. So I'll be out of a whopping $7.00! I'm going to call my clinic tomorrow and if dr. hasn't approved me then I'm asking for my $ back! Then I'll be making an appointment with Lowtestosterone.com. I am hoping my depression will go away...

[dawg4life]

They would reimburse that $307 anyhow wouldn't they? Curious to see if your depression will nicely go away after replacing your missing T?

Hopefully my libido will come back too. It's in the toilet now!

[Rusty11]

dawg....if you go that route, good luck with them(lowtestosterone.com). Keep us updated. I'm curious regarding their services. I've not read any outcomes yet, only that guys are checking them out.

[Trific]

Hopefully my libido will come back too. It's in the toilet now!

That's normal...don't care much about gittin laid when you're depressed...

[Trific]

dawg....if you go that route, good luck with them(lowtestosterone.com). Keep us updated. I'm curious regarding their services. I've not read any outcomes yet, only that guys are checking them out.

BigSpanky has been with them a bit on this thread:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...stosterone-com

[system admin]

Let us know if we can help! We would be happy to assist you.

[Rusty11]

BigSpanky has been with them a bit on this thread:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...stosterone-com

Thanks...must have missed that. I'll check it out. Things are well with me because of ME, not my doc. So, I'd like to hear some success stories to determine if this is a route I'd like to go.

[dawg4life]

Let us know if we can help! We would be happy to assist you.

Will do brother! If eternity doesn't get on the ball today, I'll be calling you guys Monday.

[dawg4life]

Let us know if we can help! We would be happy to assist you.

I sent you a message.