Low-T Endo Update

[adam1973]

called my endo's office yesterday afternoon. They said my TSH was high (duh I knew that already) and my total T was 320 and I dont need treatment! WTF!!!!!!

Ill post the labs when I get them later today.

[GotNoBlueMilk]

Typical endo crap. They work by in/out of range and little else. Post labs when you get them, and try to find a doc that specialized in HRT.

[adam1973]

Typical endo crap. They work by in/out of range and little else. Post labs when you get them, and try to find a doc that specialized in HRT.

My Lab results from Quest Diagnostics with Reference range

Free T4 ----- 1.1 ----------------Reference range ---------------> 0.8-1.8 ng/dL
TSH ------ 4.51 ----------------Reference range ---------------> 0.4-4.50 mIU/L

Thyroid Peroxidase antibodies ------ 13 ----------------Reference range ---------------> IU/mL
IGF I, LC/MS ------ 102 ----------------Reference range ---------------> 53-331 ng/dL
z score (male) ------ -0.7 ----------------Reference range ---------------> -2.0 - +2.0 SD

FSH ------- 2.4 ----------------Reference range ---------------> 1.6-8.0mIU/mL
LH -------1.5 ----------------Reference range ---------------> 1.5-9.3 mIU/mL
Testosterone , Free ------- 63.0 ----------------Reference range ---------------> 35.0-155.0 pg/mL
Testosterone, Total ------ 320 ----------------Reference range ---------------> 250-1100 ng/dL

prolactin ------ 3.6 ----------------Reference range ---------------> 2.0-18.0 ng/dL

[schon]

I feel you man, my GP told me I was fine when my total test came back at 264 ng/dL at 29 years old. I'm working with lowt dot com now and everything is easy as can be.

[austinite]

Adam, did you get a pituitary MRI? Need to figure out whats going on here, your FSH and LH are in the gutter. More investigation is needed by a GOOD doc.

[kelkel]

Have you pulled an iron panel by chance? Iron issues (low) can also raise TSH and the reverse is also true. Would be good to see a complete thyroid panel as well as the iron panel. Then you would have a much better picture of what you're dealing with.

[adam1973]

Adam, did you get a pituitary MRI? Need to figure out whats going on here, your FSH and LH are in the gutter. More investigation is needed by a GOOD doc.

I told my endo I wanted a pituitary MRI and she said she would order one once the above blood work came back. I don't think she will order one now because, according to her, I'm "normal". I'll tell her I want an MRI and I want to be treated for low-t when I see her Monday.

[austinite]

^ always remember, the doctor works for you.

[steroid.com 1]

Find an anti aging (A4M) Doc and get a complete work up done. They will order a complete hormonal panel that will blow you away. You need one that understands Thyroid conditions primarily Hypothyroidism (most aa doc's do) as this may point to your Hypogonadism.

[kelkel]

I told my endo I wanted a pituitary MRI and she said she would order one once the above blood work came back. I don't think she will order one now because, according to her, I'm "normal". I'll tell her I want an MRI and I want to be treated for low-t when I see her Monday.

No, you don't want to be treated for low T. Tell her you want to find the root cause of your low T. Then you decide where you go from there...

[austinite]

No, you don't want to be treated for low T. Tell her you want to find the root cause of your low T. Then you decide where you go from there...

^^ exactly. You have to identify the problem, thats how you fix it.

[Hackamaniac]

No, you don't want to be treated for low T. Tell her you want to find the root cause of your low T. Then you decide where you go from there...

I wish I would of found the true cause of my low t . I'm 33 on testosterone and thyroid meds and still feel like shit.

[crashfirepm53]

I know how you feel. My new Doc isn't informed until I decided the BS was too much. I'm waiting on a return call from her concerning adding the recommended labs here. She flipped on our first appointment because I was on 200mg cyp per week. My total test(only BW she does) came back at 817 so she had me go 3 weeks/no injections then redone the BW. Total test was 114(no chit) and the doc reading my labs(my doc was gone) said continue 200mg/wkly dose immediately!!

Endo's here are very limited for hrt(2 groups)for such a big city and i'm currently waiting for acceptance at group 2.If that doesn't work I will have to drive about 100 miles to find an Endo knowledgable on HRT. In the mean time I have successfully ordered Sust. dbol and HCG that I'll use in the meantime. I feel worn out constantly and I have no desire to do much of anything besides sleep.

[adam1973]

I know how you feel. My new Doc isn't informed until I decided the BS was too much. I'm waiting on a return call from her concerning adding the recommended labs here. She flipped on our first appointment because I was on 200mg cyp per week. My total test(only BW she does) came back at 817 so she had me go 3 weeks/no injections then redone the BW. Total test was 114(no chit) and the doc reading my labs(my doc was gone) said continue 200mg/wkly dose immediately!!

Endo's here are very limited for hrt(2 groups)for such a big city and i'm currently waiting for acceptance at group 2.If that doesn't work I will have to drive about 100 miles to find an Endo knowledgable on HRT. In the mean time I have successfully ordered Sust. dbol and HCG that I'll use in the meantime. I feel worn out constantly and I have no desire to do much of anything besides sleep.

my biggest problem is insomnia followed by anxiety. Desire for sex isnt a huge problem as I still want it more than my wife!

[kelkel]

I know how you feel. My new Doc isn't informed until I decided the BS was too much. I'm waiting on a return call from her concerning adding the recommended labs here. She flipped on our first appointment because I was on 200mg cyp per week. My total test(only BW she does) came back at 817 so she had me go 3 weeks/no injections then redone the BW. Total test was 114(no chit) and the doc reading my labs(my doc was gone) said continue 200mg/wkly dose immediately!!

Endo's here are very limited for hrt(2 groups)for such a big city and i'm currently waiting for acceptance at group 2.If that doesn't work I will have to drive about 100 miles to find an Endo knowledgable on HRT. In the mean time I have successfully ordered Sust. dbol and HCG that I'll use in the meantime. I feel worn out constantly and I have no desire to do much of anything besides sleep.

Lets not forget www.lowtestosterone.com. Click on their link above and read up.

[adam1973]

Thanks for all the replys the info is very valuable. As I stated I demanded a follow up with my endo and that is happening this monday. If she doesnt do her job Ill find another endo. I really want to rule out a pituitary tumor.

I also have an appointment with a bodylogicmd doctor in a week and a half. Im hoping that he's not another quack!

[kelkel]

I wish I would of found the true cause of my low t . I'm 33 on testosterone and thyroid meds and still feel like shit.

You know Hack it's really not too late.

[rednorse]

Schon, did you try anywhere else in Houston? I am going through endo's first, but not having much success.