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    more estrogen questions

    hey guys, a little while ago i put up a thread saying i had hi estrogen. i been taking .25 of exestamane EOD. i noticed on some of my off days i feel tired and weird. should i take it every day? is my estrogen spking up because of the andro gel? i noticed alot better gains in the gym and hardness over and better sexual quality while being on the exatamane. but i dont wanna kill my estrogen too

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    Guessing.

    Get blood work, it's as simple as that.

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    ^ Yes. Blood work tells all.
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    ya but i did have the blood work and i showed it. the first time the doc said it was 200. which had to be a mistake. 4 weeks later is was 22.7. my free test was low. it was in the bottom bracket. do AI also free up testosterone ? i cant keep getting blood work every 3 weeks can i?

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    How hi was it before? At .25 eod I think it could have maybe crashed. But it is all speculation without blood work. It is the only way to know.

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    well i was thinking the androgel raises it everytime i use it. ill swing by and get another blood test.

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    also want to clarify that when i take it EOD i been feeling pretty damn good.

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    Edited.. Double post
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    Exemastane at 12.5ed shouldn't crash your e...
    On another note stane half life is bout 10 hours so EOD will cause fluxuating serum levels, last note is you say .25? Do you mean 25?

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    yes 25 i meant. androgel and my estrogen dont get along. but i feel really good with the exemastane. the package does say 25

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    Its tough to make a suggestion without blood work but like I said in men half life is much shorter than most think.
    ED I do stand by though
    Even in recent tests on non aas studies even 25ed shouldnt crash e2. Being you are anabolic you should def be good
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    thx for the info man. ill get bloodwork sometime this week. if i dont take the ai i get mushy and bloated. when i do i get hard and more energy

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    Get blood work done on your AI , try 12.5mg ed then get blood drawn and adjust

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    ya but the prob is its in a capsule :{

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    Then take 25 and adjust. It shouldn't crash bro it be tuff to crash it on stane

    Otherwise buy a "oral suspension vehical" Google it

    It suspends most powders, then draw up the desired dose with a oral syringe

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    From what I understand the sides from too high and too low estrogen are very similar (including fatigue.)

    The best way to handle is to keep taking what you're taking right now and get a blood test...then adjust from there.

    Definitely take EOD or ED to keep levels constant.

    I've had to go through this juggling act a couple times with TRT and blood tests but eventually managed to find the optimal dose and timing.

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    you guys are the best thanks again. cause i have had high and its pretty damn annoying. i noticed sex was awful when it was high.

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    Def consider ed and not eod

    Good luck!

    Yes sides are the same high n low

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    will do my man thank you

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    No prob

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    i been taking the exestamane EOD and i feel ten times better

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    I thought I had hi E too so I upped my anastazole

    Didn't feel better.

    Got another blood test and my E was crashed. Whaddaya know!

    So now I'll take .25 mg twice a week instead of 1 mg twice a week and see how that goes.

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    I looked for your other e2 thread, but couldn't find it. Best to keep everything in one thread. Anyway, you are taking androgel ONLY and need an ai? You've had previous bw that shows high e2? Just curious...I'm on a gel, too. So far, no ai needed. Guess we are all different.
    Btw...how much androgel are you applying each day?

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    I have read so many conflicting opinions on how much and when to take stane that I have no idea what to do. My E2 went from 19 to 52 in 6 weeks while my test went from 394 to 852. I started on liquid Exemestane at 5mg daily. I started to feel worse. So now I take .5mg 24 hours after my injection E 3.5days. My docs will not order E2 labs for me. My lab last week after 6 weeks of 15mg less test E3.5, dropped test from 852 to 493.
    So I still don't know what to do. I wish there was a meter you could poke your finger and do your own labs daily like a diabetic.

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    I do 2 pumps twice a day. My last bloodtest showed my free test pathetically low. With 600 test. My e2 was in the middle. However i tried the ai to try and free up my test. I dont know what to do either its annoying as hell.

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    Well there you go. If you WERE in the middle E range and started an AI you probably crashed it. I felt like crap when I crashed mine.

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    Well no. I said i feel better. Id rather be normal low then closer to high. Everytime i use the gel it spikes it. The AI i use only stays in your body for 10 hours. My free test was awful. No matter how high your tsst is if you have low free t, your gonna feel like shit

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