How do so many of you get TRT?

I find it impossible for me!

I am 29!


I have low test,both total(300 ng/dl)) and free(3 pg/ml) all my life!

I have been to two endos-the second one being a progressive endo-prescribes hormones readily.


Neither of them would give me TRT.

The first one said she didn`t know much about testosterone,and referred me to the other.

This other one is a famous endo,who gives interviews all the time.
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Claims test is the most important thing for men,advocates administering testosterone in the moment of angina attack,rather than nitroglycerin,and all such rant.

She also gave me this speech when I came to her,and then sent me to do and array of tests.

When I came back,her story changed.

THERE IS NO WAY YOU`RE GETTING TRT,she said,BECAUSE YOUR SPERM COUNT IS ALL RIGHT,AND TRT WILL SHUT IT DOWN.


She prescribed me,Metformin.She said it will reduce my abdominal fat,and this will increase my free testosterone.
And sent me on my way.

Free testosterone is bullshit btw.

There are herbs that I used,which skyrocketed my free test.

Free test won`t do shit for your strength,fat,mass,laziness.
It`s only good for the libido,and not so much.
I have tested this over months and months time.

There is BTW a whole array of these idiot endos that rely only on free test,if your total is in the 300s,like mine(lower limit)
This is all bull.

TOTAL test is what it matters,otherwise there would be no need for AAS or TRT,we would all just be using tongkat ali or stinging nettle.



I feel like shit my whole life.

I need more alpha,more stamina,I`m lazy and tired,every idiot in the gym has more mass than me,in spite of me having worked my ass off.
I have a fat belly which has not been removed by Glucophage.

I do have great strength in the gym-like my 360 lb incline press-which I have gained by training my ass off for 10 years and having a smart strength building routine.


But I need to look and feel better,be less moody like a woman,and not be tired!~



What should I do?

Should I go see a 3rd endo?

Should I self prescribe 100 mg per week for 3 months on/3 months off?


How do you guys get TRT in spite of mostly having good sperm count?

BTW All of heavy AAS users that I met through the gyms for years have children!

This aspect of AAS use is greatly exaggerated IMO!


BTW I`m not in the USA!

Talk to LowTestosterone.com.

They will provide the correct care.

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Originally Posted by gdevine

Talk to LowTestosterone.com.

They will provide the correct care.

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Would be glad to,but am in Europe.

btw AWESOME FOREARM....

Ok read through this a bit.... what is your main goal... do you want test to just feel better or to gain muscle and become a beast!!???

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Originally Posted by JCFobsession

Ok read through this a bit.... what is your main goal... do you want test to just feel better or to gain muscle and become a beast!!???

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Gain muscle THAT I DESERVE - and which nature has been withholding even though I have great strength.

Improve shoulder-trap to waist ratio

Improve connective tissure health

Not be tired after everything

Feel more masculine and not like an old woman

Not get easily depressed and irritable





BTW Thanks for reading my wall of text!!!!

What do you look like...

Height and weight????

If your over weight. Get your diet on point!!!!!

Diet will cure lots...
Getting sleeping pattern down..
Do you smoke or do drugs...
Do you tale pre work out...
Do you take essential vitamins.
You getting healthy fruit, veggies....

If your incline is 360 then strength is not issue. And no way you weigh 160 putting up 360.

Still sounds like you need a better doctor. Maybe a male doc who specializes in HRT. You also need full BW to determine exactly what is causing your low T. There has to be a reason. You do not want TRT unless you have to. So many things can cause low T. Hypothyroidism, prolactin or cortisol issues, tumors, varicoceles and the list goes on.

So, find the causative factor and address that issue first before you jump on a program that will totally shut your HPTA down. Something is amiss and is hopefully correctable. An example of blood work is in the Finding a Doc Sticky thread.

And welcome to the forum...

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Originally Posted by kelkel

And welcome to the forum...

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Thanks man!

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Originally Posted by kelkel

Still sounds like you need a better doctor. Maybe a male doc who specializes in HRT. You also need full BW to determine exactly what is causing your low T. There has to be a reason. You do not want TRT unless you have to. So many things can cause low T. Hypothyroidism, prolactin or cortisol issues, tumors, varicoceles and the list goes on.

So, find the causative factor and address that issue first before you jump on a program that will totally shut your HPTA down. Something is amiss and is hopefully correctable. An example of blood work is in the Finding a Doc Sticky thread.

And welcome to the forum...

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There are so many factors that could be causing low T.

I have read about it a lot,and I`m not sure it could be done.

There are so so many variables that it`s insane.


I have insulin resistance BTW.

And the doc also told me to do bloods for Hashimoto`s disease eventually.

She hasn`t told me that I have Metabolic syndome too,but I suspect that i do have it,since I have a tendency for:

Symptoms and features are:
Fasting hyperglycemia — diabetes mellitus type 2 or impaired fasting glucose, impaired glucose tolerance, or insulin resistance
High blood pressure
Central obesity (also known as visceral, male-pattern or apple-shaped adiposity), overweight with fat deposits mainly around the waist
Decreased HDL cholesterol
Elevated triglycerides
Low Testosterone

The other factors(triglycerides,LDL,Blood Pressure),I can control totally with good diet.

But the low testosterone and extremely low HDL are always present,no matter how I eat or how much fat I lose.

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What do you look like...

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Thanks man.

My diet is all right last few years.

It has changed throughout the years,and my weight has changed also.I was 270,170,220,240.

But the testosterone was always the same.

I am 210 right now,and 6.2 tall.

I eat fruit and vegetables,and take a complete multivitamin.

I don`t smoke or do forbidden substances.

I work in the afternoon/evening,so I stay up late(till 4-5),and sleep till noon.


I am pretty strong,stronger than any natty guy at the gyms I trained in,and than many steroid users there,excluding the ones that are real monsters.


I have tried doing many "test boosters",like Testofen,DAA,Fadogia Agrestis,and have done bloods while on them.
None of them boosted my total T.

LJ100 and Divanil free up your test but free test is highly overrated.

BTW she did a testicle exam and scan-and they are perfectly fine.

Also did a thyroid scan-slight chronic inflammation-which is why she suggested I do Hashimoto blood test.

You really need the right doc to find the cause. Give us a state that your in or general area and lets see if we can find a specialist in your area that guys here are aware of.

Heeeeyyyyyy.

Ok so I have two buddies who are older ones late 30 and other is low 40 ...

They both have low test results and have not been prescribed by a doctor to do any hrt.
One was given sample pack of pills a natural test booster to try and was told he may be able to go to shot's , or the new time release capsule!

The other has not been givin anything yet after 3rd visit ..

If your still on thread ill update what happened with them both

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Originally Posted by myrnadell

Thanks man.

My diet is all right last few years.

It has changed throughout the years,and my weight has changed also.I was 270,170,220,240.

But the testosterone was always the same.

I am 210 right now,and 6.2 tall.

I eat fruit and vegetables,and take a complete multivitamin.

I don`t smoke or do forbidden substances.

I work in the afternoon/evening,so I stay up late(till 4-5),and sleep till noon.


I am pretty strong,stronger than any natty guy at the gyms I trained in,and than many steroid users there,excluding the ones that are real monsters.


I have tried doing many "test boosters",like Testofen,DAA,Fadogia Agrestis,and have done bloods while on them.
None of them boosted my total T.

LJ100 and Divanil free up your test but free test is highly overrated.

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can you tell me what herbs you used and what dosages to free up your test? I disagree that it's worthless...and if it worked why is your free test 3?