test and clomid?

[20YO]

Hi all, so I've been on doctor prescribed t cream for just over 2 weeks now (for idiopathic hypogonadism - had consistently low normal lh and fsh). I apply 200mg t cream daily (assuming an approx 10% absorption rate). No other treatment was prescribed... I mentioned clomid (and hcg ) to doc but he seemed unenthused. Will try again at next appt. (am in australia btw, so if anyone from here has been prescribed these please let me know)

I've gone ahead and purchased clomid from site sponsor.

What I'm wondering, is will clomid's proven effect on natty production be completely negated by concurrent exogenous test therapy? Or will clomid in fact maintain some endogenous production even in the presence of exogenous test?
The only studies ive seen look at clomid monotherapy.

also, i'm curious about how long (on avg) before effects of test cream reach their peak? particularly w/ regard to libido etc. Note, i have noticed some changes already...
The sticky has excellent info, but the study the referred to looks at IM esters... do you think there's a significant difference in the timeframe for esters/creams?


cheers

[phaedo]

What I'm wondering, is will clomid's proven effect on natty production be completely negated by concurrent exogenous test therapy?

Yup.

Or will clomid in fact maintain some endogenous production even in the presence of exogenous test?

Nope, it sure won't.

The only studies ive seen look at clomid monotherapy.

There's a reason to that. Exogenous testosterone used in conjunction with Clomid is like trying to move a car by pushing from both ends at the same time.

[HRTstudent]

it's not the worst theory actually, but i believe it might only work if someone were taking a very low dose of testosterone .

but you're not even taking rx-quality drugs so there is no way to know what or how much you are getting. nobody would recommend that for HRT.