difference in pain from 30g to 37g

**powerlifterty16** · 06-17-2013, 03:16 PM

So, in the event I go the trt route after my hcg is done....I was thinking of asking for 27g needles(i use 30 for hcg)...the 30 feels fine, and id have no problem pinning 30 for life...is 27 a similar pain fee feeling or does it actually hurt?

**VTX1800** · 06-17-2013, 03:33 PM

No man it doesn't hurt. It's all a needle phobia. Once u start pinning u will actually enjoy it.

**powerlifterty16** · 06-17-2013, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by VTX1800

No man it doesn't hurt. It's all a needle phobia. Once u start pinning u will actually enjoy it.

i enjoy pinning now actually...just wasnt sure if 27 would be painful. Im very curious what my numbers will be after the 6 weeks is up. tbh im using 400 iu instead of 350...bc it's a shame to throw the whole vial out.

**FRDave** · 06-17-2013, 04:50 PM

I pin HCG in my love handles and can feel a difference between my 26g and 29g, in which I prefer the 29g. For test I pin using the 26g in the glutes and can't feel a thing.

So I guess it all depends on where you inject, at least in my case. If for HCG, I personally would go with the smaller 30g vs 27g.

**LT75** · 06-17-2013, 06:13 PM

I really thought you had a 37g needle for test. I was going to say good luck getting the oil through.

**austinite** · 06-17-2013, 06:42 PM

31g is the max for me, even that is tough. 29 is ideal for me for SubQ.... 37g? I wouldn't attempt that unless injecting a water-based.

**powerlifterty16** · 06-17-2013, 06:49 PM

meant 27 ugh!

**Trific** · 06-17-2013, 11:20 PM

don't think they make a 37g

topnews.in/health/worlds-smallest-insulin -injection-needle-launched-212149

**austinite** · 06-17-2013, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by Trific

don't think they make a 37g

topnews.in/health/worlds-smallest-insulin-injection-needle-launched-212149

Probably right. There is a 36 gauge out there though.

**powerlifterty16** · 06-17-2013, 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by powerlifterty16

meant 27 ugh!

meant 27..what is the diff between 30 and 27 feel wise?

**austinite** · 06-18-2013, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by powerlifterty16

meant 27..what is the diff between 30 and 27 feel wise?

30 feels better. Goes in smoother, harder to inject, however. Same difference between any size gauge and a higher one.

**rustyjames** · 06-18-2013, 09:50 AM

my pharmacy gave me 23g needles to inject, 19 to draw. But f#ck that, I use 25g and they're virtually painless and I'm finding the 25g pretty hard to inject, the 30g must take forever!

Speaking of needles, I inject in my quads, I'm pretty lean(10-12% bf) and my thighs are pretty small, is there any reason not to use a 3/4" needle instead of a 1" for IM.

**powerlifterty16** · 06-18-2013, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

30 feels better. Goes in smoother, harder to inject, however. Same difference between any size gauge and a higher one.

im confused on the last sentence..since the first contradicts it..or maybe im reading it wrong lol.

**JohnGalt** · 06-18-2013, 12:55 PM

he's saying that the higher gauge (thinner needle) will always have less pain, but the trade off is that the oil in test is thick so as the needle gets thinner it becomes harder to push it through the needle. So regardless of what gauge you are talking about in differences the thinner the less pain but more difficult push as well as vice versa thine thicker the needle the more it's felt but the easier it is to push the oil through.

to see what we mean take your insulin needles and draw and then expel 1 cc of water, and then do the same thing with vegetable oil and feel the difference in how long it takes to fill it to 1 cc and the difference in pressure needed to expel the same amount out of the needle.