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    Testosterone injections and scrotum size

    Had my 3rd shot a week ago and now my scrotum is smaller and tight to my body. Don't see the doc for another month. Is this normal, is it a serious problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitestonian View Post
    Had my 3rd shot a week ago and now my scrotum is smaller and tight to my body. Don't see the doc for another month. Is this normal, is it a serious problem?
    your scrotum will eventually disappear unless you are on hcg .

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    ^^^ that. unfortunately if your doc is slow or doesn't believe in hCG , AI's, etc.. simply tell him you're having pain in your testis and they are shrinking, and demand him to do something about it, meaning write you a script for hCG. i wasn't given hCG until 3 months into TRT (big mistake), and since then i been on hCG and my boys are about 60% of their normal size. don't wait too long, you let them atrophy for too long you may have hard time bringing them back to normal size.

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    No harm is doing T only for a period of time then going then deciding later to supplement with HCG . not to worry. Ive had men do T only for almost a decade then start HCG and everything returns to normal. If your equipment works before you started treatment then HCG should restart HPTA no problem. Doctor should of asked you 3 questions and if you answer yes to any of them then HCG should be given.

    1) Does testicular atrophy bother you?
    2) Do you wish to keep fertility intact while on treatment?
    3) Do you wish to father children while on treatment?

    If you answered YES to any fo these questions and are Secondary Hypo then HCG is right for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LowT Mike View Post
    No harm is doing T only for a period of time then going then deciding later to supplement with HCG . not to worry. Ive had men do T only for almost a decade then start HCG and everything returns to normal. If your equipment works before you started treatment then HCG should restart HPTA no problem. Doctor should of asked you 3 questions and if you answer yes to any of them then HCG should be given.

    1) Does testicular atrophy bother you?
    2) Do you wish to keep fertility intact while on treatment?
    3) Do you wish to father children while on treatment?

    If you answered YES to any fo these questions and are Secondary Hypo then HCG is right for you.
    Mike, I know quite few members here and friends including me that experience testicular shrinkage and never able to get them back 100%. the evidence are real, the longer you wait the longer it takes to recover, and might not recover 100%.

    OP, its better to be safe than sorry, if you're experiencing shrinkage this fast, i wouldn't wait too long. just saying.

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    Thanks for the replies, I'll see if my appointment can be moved up.

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    I have also read that if the testes are left to atrophy for a significant period of time they can scar... and this can affect their ability to return to completely normal function.

    Bass, you said that your nuts are 60% of their normal size... and this is with hCG ? I take it your not too bothered about bringing them up to FULL size? Or perhaps the amount of hCG this would take would cause e2 probs for you? Cheers bud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LowT Mike View Post
    No harm is doing T only for a period of time then going then deciding later to supplement with HCG . not to worry. Ive had men do T only for almost a decade then start HCG and everything returns to normal. If your equipment works before you started treatment then HCG should restart HPTA no problem. Doctor should of asked you 3 questions and if you answer yes to any of them then HCG should be given.

    1) Does testicular atrophy bother you?
    2) Do you wish to keep fertility intact while on treatment?
    3) Do you wish to father children while on treatment?

    If you answered YES to any fo these questions and are Secondary Hypo then HCG is right for you.
    This is why I switched doctors. I mentioned fertility as primariy motivator, as well as the size bothering me, wouldn't do it so I moved along.

    Bass, I wonder if something about your protocol could change and cause improvements. I am currently on 500 eod. I switched to this as hcg provides me the best sense of well being, and because studies regarding fertility showed this protocol worked best. I tried every day protocols as per crisler, but didn't get good enough results. For reference my doc started me at 250x2 a week, then switched me to 500x2, I could feel the effects wearing off. Testicular size is actually larger than previous doses which didn't seem to bring them back fully.

    Something to consider, although that might be your protocol already, maybe you need more or who knows, maybe something can be done.

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    Another main here is if your primary it doesn't matter at all correct? I noticed nothing with hcg

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreadnok89 View Post
    your primary
    his primary what? lol jk
    there are other lh receptors besides the balls.

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    And if the ones in your balls don't work it doesn't matter, your still going to get atrophy. At least that's what I read on this board. If you have primary hypo hcg won't do anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by bass View Post
    Mike, I know quite few members here and friends including me that experience testicular shrinkage and never able to get them back 100%. the evidence are real, the longer you wait the longer it takes to recover, and might not recover 100%.

    OP, its better to be safe than sorry, if you're experiencing shrinkage this fast, i wouldn't wait too long. just saying.
    I speaking as far as long term health risks and pathology of doing T only. There is no long term damage of doing T without HCG . Dont scare this poor guy.LOL. If you find the appropriate dose of HCG your testicular size should bounce back relatively quick. Ive treated 1000s of men and my patients nor myself have ever had this issue you are talking about using the CORRECT DOSING not once. Find your appropriate dose of HCG and a good product thats where you went wrong. If currently using T and wishing to start HCG I give titrated bolus doses ED similar to a HPTA restart to kick function in for 2 weeks then slowly taper down and frequency to a tailored dose for the patient. It works fast! If you are only at 60% up your dose and frequency and/or switch to another brand of HCG.
    . I have spent years cultivating the ones that I know make great product. There are many compounding pharmacies that make "not so good" HCG product that have failed every % of EXP and analysis. When you buy HCG ask for the "Certificate of Analysis" if they do there own assay that raises red flags. If they use a 3rd party like "ARL" Analytical Research Laboratories and test every batch or at least the FDA minimum of every 25 thats a great sign they make good product.
    Last edited by LowT Mike; 08-08-2013 at 11:16 AM.

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    This is what Im talking about... I love stories like these.

    http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-re...hcg-works.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by LowT Mike View Post
    I speaking as far as long term health risks and pathology of doing T only. There is no long term damage of doing T without HCG . Dont scare this poor guy.LOL. If you find the appropriate dose of HCG your testicular size should bounce back relatively quick. Ive treated 1000s of men and my patients nor myself have ever had this issue you are talking about using the CORRECT DOSING not once. Find your appropriate dose of HCG and a good product thats where you went wrong. If currently using T and wishing to start HCG I give titrated bolus doses ED similar to a HPTA restart to kick function in for 2 weeks then slowly taper down and frequency to a tailored dose for the patient. It works fast! If you are only at 60% up your dose and frequency and/or switch to another brand of HCG. PM me and I can give you a list of top notch compounding pharmacies that make great product.
    . I have spent years cultivating the ones that I know make great product. There are many compounding pharmacies that make "not so good" HCG product that have failed every % of EXP and analysis. When you buy HCG ask for the "Certificate of Analysis" if they do there own assay that raises red flags. If they use a 3rd party like "ARL" Analytical Research Laboratories and test every batch or at least the FDA minimum of every 25 thats a great sign they make good product.
    point well taken Mike. thanks for the explanation. perhaps I need to make some adjustments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LowT Mike
    This is what Im talking about... I love stories like these.

    http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-re...hcg-works.html
    So do I

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    I'm doing 500 3 times a week. You can't do a more right?

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