Young with trt problems

[Howell]

25
200
14%bf
5 10
2 cycles of test only. One was over 4 years ago the other 1 year ago with hcg and nolvadex for pct.

Ok I recently started having all the symptoms of low t. I am in the Air Force so my docs are not the best. But after I started a paleo diet I hit rock bottom and went and requested a complete set of labs. Doc refused to check my t levels because her words "big young guys like you do not have low t" but I was noticing the libido issues so I requested it again. Came back. 174 for total in a range of 250-1100. So I got referred to a endocrinologist.

Problems are getting worse because it took a month Ina half for the first appointment where he wanted more labs because my first one was around 10 and not 8. So the 2nd ones came back 318. So then he sent me to get tested for sleep apnea. That's a negative so I get labs again and the third set I did run test p at 75mg for 2 weeks then stopped and and binged drink for 2 weeks and the results were 234 with 57 free t ranges r 45-200 and something. So 3rd test altered.

Doc said I don't have low t even tho its outside of the ranges. He says I'm depressed and he wanted to put me on anti depressants. I gave him a very respectful F U. Then asked him if he has checked my LH n FSH levels thats a no because again his words"a big muscle guy like you will not have low t". I tell him I have all the symptoms for it and plainly feel like shit. He says that still isn't my problem. So I tell him ill get a second opinion.

I go to a fertility doc Monday so hopefully I get on HCG and keep in mind the endo doc new that I didn't want TRT right away because I'm trying to have another kid. He also said you never run TRT with hcg.

I'm just looking for any advice. I'm young and I still want at least one more kid and in the military. Am I right about the doc being a complete idiot?
Should I push for hcg therapy? I can't feel like this much longer.

Thanks.

[Howell]

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[EverettCD]

Sounds like the base Dr's aren't to up to date with male hormones. I would talk to your fertility Dr. My current Dr. is a urologist, I never thought that a urologist would be a good TRT Dr. I started with my PCP, tried another Dr. that he recommended & then found my Dr. when HRTStudent suggested I check out Baylor College of Medicine.

[powerlifterty16]

urolofists asa whole are not bad trt docs..not good but not bad. i think they are more open to using hcg and clomid. I do know a really bad urologist though....my family has known him for 60 yrs.

[kelkel]

The quality of the doctor, as in any profession, relates directly to that individual, not the collective profession or selective discipline within. Op, you need to seek better help and obtain further testing. Complete blood work is needed as your first step. After that is reviewed by a competent doc the next step may be obvious.

[JackedJesse]

Hang in there Howell. Get help from a different doctor. The hardest part is dealing with the way you feel right now. It will get better but you have to be patient. Even when you get proper help, it will take weeks and weeks to determine a solution. Then even more possibly to get dialed in.

But until then, keep your head straight. Eat, hydrate, lift, get the rest you can. It will get better I promise. Keep us posted on your progress. -Jesse

[Howell]

Ok so we went to the fertility doc. He said that nothing was wrong with the wife and that I needed to be treated for low t. He recommended the gel but I had to go back to my Flt doc for a referral.

So the fertility doc wrote a recommendation to go see another endo doc and to have sperm frozen ASAP. Well the referral off base was denied and they are just going to send me to the other endo doc on oct the 8th on base which sucks because even tho he is the older doc he will still be going tho the military procedures.

I don't think I mentioned this yet because it is very embarrassing but I am having issues keeping a solid boner. And I have told all the docs this and the fertility doc is the only one who said I should be treated the others said that because I am a muscular guy low t wouldn't do this and the endo said it was depression.

Does anyone have any solid advice on how to handle the situation when I see the other doc? I pissed both the docs on base off because I did my research and my Flt doc told me to stop doing research and let the doc do his job. But I don't trust him. I get my MRI results tomorrow and ill post em.

Also I am wanting to treat myself since I have a month to wait. Any advice on this? I was thinking about 75 to 100 mg of test p a week. Or hcg.

Also does anyone know where I could get hard and doctor backed info to show the doc or is this a bad ideal?

Thanks

[JackedJesse]

Hey bud. Sounds like you are in a tough situation. First, what should happen, is you tell the doc your symptoms and after they get your labs back, they need to determine the CAUSE for your low T. If its hypogonadism, then they should treat you with TRT. I highly recommend urging the doctor to give you injection and not gels, creams, orals or pellets, as they have proven inconsistent. I havent heard of one guy on TRT using those that is happy.

Secondly, a regular dosing of Hcg in almost all cases has proven to keep sperm count high and healthy and prevent testicular atrophy. I recommend you ask for hcg if trt will be administered.

Thirdly, I recommend staying away from self medicating for right now because if the doctors order more blood work, it will skew what is going on in your body, making it impossible for them to get to the cause and determine treatment.

Good luck, and I hope all goes well. -Jesse

[JackedJesse]

Also, its great that youve done your research, and any good doctor would understand and support that. The key is how you come across to the doctor with your questions. Make sure your respectful and word things the right way, like "Ive heard this if this, is that true?". Instead of " I read this, I need this."