SQ for about 6 week bw

[calicp]

I tried SQ for about 6 weeks with this protocol
50 mg Test Cyp 2x / Week(I did Bass Two Site Injection)
250 HCG 3x / Week
No AI

I just ordered the Female panel online off of some peoples suggestions in here to see how SQ would go. Any suggestions on BW let me know . I know my Hematocrit is getting high my next blood donation is on Oct 2, so I should be good.

Previous BW:
http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-re...rting-trt.html

9/24/13 BW:

Test Name Result Flag Reference Range Lab
CBC With Differential/Platelet
WBC 7.5 3.4-10.8 x10E3/uL SO
RBC 6.14 HIGH 4.14-5.80 x10E6/uL SO
Hemoglobin 17.5 12.6-17.7 g/dL SO
Hematocrit 52.0 HIGH 37.5-51.0 % SO
MCV 85 79-97 fL SO
MCH 28.5 26.6-33.0 pg SO
MCHC 33.7 31.5-35.7 g/dL SO
RDW 14.2 12.3-15.4 % SO
Platelets 262 155-379 x10E3/uL SO
Neutrophils 57 40-74 % SO
Lymphs 31 14-46 % SO
Monocytes 9 4-12 % SO
Eos 2 0-5 % SO
Basos 1 0-3 % SO
Neutrophils (Absolute) 4.3 1.4-7.0 x10E3/uL SO
Lymphs (Absolute) 2.3 0.7-3.1 x10E3/uL SO
Monocytes(Absolute) 0.7 0.1-0.9 x10E3/uL SO
Eos (Absolute) 0.1 0.0-0.4 x10E3/uL SO
Baso (Absolute) 0.0 0.0-0.2 x10E3/uL SO
Immature Granulocytes 0 0-2 % SO
Immature Grans (Abs) 0.0 0.0-0.1 x10E3/uL SO
Comp. Metabolic Panel (14)
Glucose, Serum 77 65-99 mg/dL SO
BUN 13 6-20 mg/dL SO
Creatinine, Serum 1.07 0.76-1.27 mg/dL SO
eGFR If NonAfricn Am 91 >59 mL/min/1.73 SO
eGFR If Africn Am 105 >59 mL/min/1.73 SO
BUN/Creatinine Ratio 12 8-19 SO
Sodium, Serum 141 134-144 mmol/L SO
Potassium, Serum 4.4 3.5-5.2 mmol/L SO
Chloride, Serum 102 97-108 mmol/L SO
Carbon Dioxide, Total 21 19-28 mmol/L SO
Calcium, Serum 9.4 8.7-10.2 mg/dL SO
Protein, Total, Serum 7.5 6.0-8.5 g/dL SO
Albumin, Serum 4.6 3.5-5.5 g/dL SO
Globulin, Total 2.9 1.5-4.5 g/dL SO
A/G Ratio 1.6 1.1-2.5 SO
Bilirubin, Total 0.6 0.0-1.2 mg/dL SO
Alkaline Phosphatase, S 131 HIGH 44-102 IU/L SO
AST (SGOT) 26 0-40 IU/L SO
ALT (SGPT) 30 0-44 IU/L SO
Testosterone, Serum
Testosterone, Serum 608 348-1197 ng/dL SO
Luteinizing Hormone(LH), S
LH <0.2 LOW 1.7-8.6 mIU/mL SO
FSH, Serum
FSH 0.3 LOW 1.5-12.4 mIU/mL SO
Estradiol
Estradiol 57.9 HIGH 7.6-42.6 pg/mL SO

[ZenFitness]

I'm interested in this. 608 on your total T, what was it prior to going SQ, and are these both peak or trough BW tests?

[calicp]

I do my blood work right before my next injection of Test Cyp. Previous BW my TESTOSTERONE , TOTAL 717 ng/dL

I'm interested in this. 608 on your total T, what was it prior to going SQ, and are these both peak or trough BW tests?

[ZenFitness]

Thanks - your pre-SQ BW is right about where I am (I do 50mg 2x a week IM). I know everyone's mileage varies, but it looks like you went down 100 points on total T with SQ (which of course is not bad, just an observation) but are still well in range esp. when 608 is a trough level. Do you feel any different?

[calicp]

When I started IM my back pain I had for years suddenly disappeared, but about 1 week after I started SQ the back pain returned, so not sure about what is going on. I started back IM shots last night and going to see if my back pain goes away. I am also going to experiment with Two Site Injection IM this time and see how the effects Total T and E2

Thanks - your pre-SQ BW is right about where I am (I do 50mg 2x a week IM). I know everyone's mileage varies, but it looks like you went down 100 points on total T with SQ (which of course is not bad, just an observation) but are still well in range esp. when 608 is a trough level. Do you feel any different?

[FRDave]

Get your E2 down (ideally around 30) and your test levels will jump a good 100 points or more.

[NWIron]

Adex ASAP

[dreadnok89]

Adex ASAP

Is the estrogen really that bad? I would uses exestamane. That freed up a boatload of my test and freetest

[FRDave]

Is the estrogen really that bad? I would uses exestamane. That freed up a boatload of my test and freetest

Yes, he needs to drop down, ideally in the mid 20 to low 30 range.

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2008/...ng-Male_01.htm

[dreadnok89]

Yes, he needs to drop down, ideally in the mid 20 to low 30 range.

Dangers of Excess Estrogen in the Aging Male - Life Extension

Sorry frdave, I meant is 52 really that bad with a test level of over 600. The two numbers go hand in hand. If your t is,90 and and your E2 is 76, that's really bad I would assume!

[ZenFitness]

Sorry frdave, I meant is 52 really that bad with a test level of over 600. The two numbers go hand in hand. If your t is,90 and and your E2 is 76, that's really bad I would assume!

Apples and oranges. High E2 is never good at any test level. Test and E2 are mutually exclusive really... the connection is that high test (or spikes in test) can convert to E2.

[dreadnok89]

The fact about that study that didn't mention was the test levels of the men.

[bass]

Get your E2 down (ideally around 30) and your test levels will jump a good 100 points or more.

^^^ this.

OP, interested to see if the TSI protocol will rise your T levels.