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    Week 6 Bloodwork, am I looking good?

    Here is the 6 Week blood work. My protocol is 200mg per week and 500ui HCG , split twice a week. Am I looking OK?

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    Looks good to me but I'm no doctor. Although your Estradiol seems a little on the high end of things so maybe a very small dose of an over the counter AI supplement would be good.

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    how do you feel more importantly>?

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    Truth? just marginally better. Libido is a little increased. Other than that I don't think I am feeling fantastic but then again it may have come on gradually and me not notice. I was worried about estradiol being just under the cutoff. More importantly though I was most worried about creatinine levels. Isn't it bad to be low?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jomamma007 View Post
    how do you feel more importantly>?
    Yep, what he said is correct. Your estradiol is slightly high, slightly above what's considered optimal but it's not terrible by any means. If you're feeling good, you might keep things as is. If you're still having symptoms, maybe a very low dose of Anastrozle might be in order. This will lower estradiol and give a bit of a boost to testosterone levels . If this doesn't do the trick, a slight increase in testosterone might be in order.

    For what it's worth, my protocol is Test-cyp 60mg 2x/wk and HCG 500iu 2x/wk. My testosterone stays around 800-900, Free test around 28-35 and my estradiol between 19-22. My test levels are very good, they're not tremendously high and I feel fantastic. Notice I don't have any AI listed in my protocol either. It is possible more than possible. Once you get dialed in and remain that way for awhile, a lot of guys who need AI's end up needing less and less.

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    My six week bloods were almost identical to yours except my E was 17 on the low end. I was administering 40mg cyp twice a week and 200iu Hcg three times a week with 1/2 of Anastrozole once a week.

    My doc cut my ai to 1/4 a week and my E went into the mid 20's and my T came down. He was trying to get my free T under the high mark. I don't feel as good as I did then. Im wondering what your T would look like if your E was in the 20's. Your T would probably go up and you could lower your dose a little.

    I do feel mentally sharper with my E in the mid 20's rather than the teens. Go by how you feel.

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    If you try an AI and don't feel any difference can you just come off and levels return to the way they were?

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    Yes. You might want to try dim and zinc first. My multi vitamin has copper. Zinc depletes copper but you have to take a lot of zinc. I take 50 mg of zinc a day and just started taking dim estro by numedica. Im doing blood in two weeks and hope to be off Anastrozole.

    You might want to try zinc and dim first since Anastrozole isn't the best thing for bones.

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    Wonder why everyone is on 600-1000ui of HCG and she has me on 500ui per week. My woman works with a bodybuilder and he gave me some clomid to try. He said that he was on the same dose and his Test levels were 1100. I don't really care about being that high but are high free test levels meaning that I am not using what I am injecting and it is aromatizing?

    I'm new at this all and am just trying to learn more about what I'm doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Failure View Post
    Wonder why everyone is on 600-1000ui of HCG and she has me on 500ui per week. My woman works with a bodybuilder and he gave me some clomid to try. He said that he was on the same dose and his Test levels were 1100. I don't really care about being that high but are high free test levels meaning that I am not using what I am injecting and it is aromatizing?I'm new at this all and am just trying to learn more about what I'm doing.
    500iu works for some people. Using the lowest amount to get the desired results is always better than too much when it's not needed. I take 600 a week and do fine.

    Our free T is a little high but low T Mike says we're in the optimal range. Your dose is pretty high but everyone's dif and require a protocol designed for that specific individual.

    If you did lower your dose ( a little ) and your E comes down you could free up a little T and level things out a bit. This is theory from my lowt doc. We're figuring out my low E prob. what I did was lower my AI in half to raise E and bring down free T a bit. After next bloods We'll reevaluate and adjust.

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