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    what can dull orgasms mean

    If the erections are fine but the finishing weak does that mean your low on e2?

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    Could be high or low E or prolactin as well.
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    ^^^ This and levels of FSH and LH are directly linked to a number of ejaculate conditions and spermatozoa health (azoospermia, oligozoospermia, asthenozoospermia)
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    Could be high or low E or prolactin as well.

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    So if I'm on hrt, my fh and lh would be low right? I'll get another bloodtes and get NY prolactin checked.

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    Also high e you would have erection problems correct?

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    As with most hormones in our body, there are "optimal" ranges. Levels that are too high or two low can actually produce similar symptoms. So, elevated LH and FSH levels can affect ejaculate strength and load in similar ways seen with suppressed levels (which is typical of anabolic cycling and some TRT patients).

    The same is true of your estrogen levels. Levels that are out of normal range (too high or too low) can contribute to muscle loss, low libido, erectile dysfunction, arthralgia (joint pain), myalgia (muscle pain), anxiety, depression, impaired sleep, etc. Some men are more sensitive to changes in hormones out of normal ranges, while others can endure greater shifts before impairments are observed and even then, not everyone experiences the same effects. I had my E2 run away on a high dose cycle once. I felt lethargic and my strength was diminished, but my libido and erections were unaffected, even though my E2 reached a level of 315!!!!!

    Best thing for you, IMO, is to have some blood work done to assess what changes may be contributing to the negative effects you are experiencing.

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    (315 sensitive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    As with most hormones in our body, there are "optimal" ranges. Levels that are too high or two low can actually produce similar symptoms. So, elevated LH and FSH levels can affect ejaculate strength and load in similar ways seen with suppressed levels (which is typical of anabolic cycling and some TRT patients).

    The same is true of your estrogen levels. Levels that are out of normal range (too high or too low) can contribute to muscle loss, low libido, erectile dysfunction, arthralgia (joint pain), myalgia (muscle pain), anxiety, depression, impaired sleep, etc. Some men are more sensitive to changes in hormones out of normal ranges, while others can endure greater shifts before impairments are observed and even then, not everyone experiences the same effects. I had my E2 run away on a high dose cycle once. I felt lethargic and my strength was diminished, but my libido and erections were unaffected, even though my E2 reached a level of 315!!!!!

    Best thing for you, IMO, is to have some blood work done to assess what changes may be contributing to the negative effects you are experiencing.

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    Could also be due to the women your with....LOL
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    the woman is my hand and she is phenomenal!

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    does my hand mean you guys are married?
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    My estrogen is all over the place. So godamn hard to dial it in. And power no, me and my hand are soulmates

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreadnok89 View Post
    If the erections are fine but the finishing weak does that mean your low on e2?
    Although this is likely not the case with you, but age must also be taken into consideration.

    Of course, everyone is different but as the body ages, so does the circulatory system. There is an age related decrease in function. Erections are not as strong as they once were and likely orgasms are not as intense (although I don't know the physiological explanation for this).

    I'm 66 and TRT DRAMATICALLY changed both of the above for me. I'm in excellent physical shape with no medical issues at all, but I'm certainly not rockin' and rollin' like I was at 26!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Sox View Post
    Although this is likely not the case with you, but age must also be taken into consideration.

    Of course, everyone is different but as the body ages, so does the circulatory system. There is an age related decrease in function. Erections are not as strong as they once were and likely orgasms are not as intense (although I don't know the physiological explanation for this).

    I'm 66 and TRT DRAMATICALLY changed both of the above for me. I'm in excellent physical shape with no medical issues at all, but I'm certainly not rockin' and rollin' like I was at 26!

    Find a 26 yr old and I bet all that would change.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Find a 26 yr old and I bet all that would change.....
    Not sure my wife would like that....;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Sox View Post
    Not sure my wife would like that....;-)
    Bring her home, you'd be surprised what women can do together!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Bring her home, you'd be surprised what women can do together!
    Oh, that's all in the past....;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Sox View Post
    Oh, that's all in the past....;-)
    Boo. Re-live your youth!
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    Dread,
    I think another factor to consider is the quality of the relationship you have with your partner. If your favorite companion is Rosie Palm, you may not be completely satisfied with the results. Self love in its many forms could put a damper on us. Mind and body are inseparable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dreadnok89 View Post
    My estrogen is all over the place. So godamn hard to dial it in. And power no, me and my hand are soulmates
    im starting to believe your woman is pamela handerson which may explain the weak orgasms...jk
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    No, believe it or not I like being alone better because I'm lazy and self conscious. However in hrt its all over the place. Sometimes its out of Hans sometimes very weak

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreadnok89 View Post
    No, believe it or not I like being alone better because I'm lazy and self conscious. However in hrt its all over the place. Sometimes its out of Hans sometimes very weak
    Dread,

    I hope you don't stay alone. It's so much nicer finding someone to share your thoughts and feeling with and the rest that goes along with it. From my own experience, being of someone is part of a man's expression. Remember what Tom Cruise said to Renee Zellweger in "Jerry McGuire"?

    You complete me.


    Great movie. I just saw it again from Netflix. Cuba Gooding Jr. was amazing. Won an Oscar.
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    Yes sir! Found me a 22 year old Asian 3 1/2 years ago. Fun times.

    My HAW (I remarried in 2012) is 12 years younger than me.

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    Find a 26 yr old and I bet all that would change.....

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    lol im destined to be alone...something about me repulses girls
    I used to blame it on low t, but that's obviously not the case

    btw 2sox, you misread dread's post. he has a gf, jsut prefers to be alone

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    lol.....it wasn't my looks that got me the girls, it was money. lol
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    lol im destined to be alone...something about me repulses girls
    I used to blame it on low t, but that's obviously not the case

    btw 2sox, you misread dread's post. he has a gf, jsut prefers to be alone
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    lol.....it wasn't my looks that got me the girls, it was money. lol
    hey, it worked

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    Exactly. I'm thinking I should have $100 bill tattooed on my pecker because women love to blow money
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    someone told me a similar joke in hs. He said ''i got my name tattooed on my dick..now bitches cant keep mah name out dey mouthz'' lol.
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    2sox is one cool dude
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Sox View Post
    Dread,
    I think another factor to consider is the quality of the relationship you have with your partner. If your favorite companion is Rosie Palm, you may not be completely satisfied with the results. Self love in its many forms could put a damper on us. Mind and body are inseparable.
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    Dread,

    I hope you don't stay alone. It's so much nicer finding someone to share your thoughts and feeling with and the rest that goes along with it. From my own experience, being of someone is part of a man's expression. Remember what Tom Cruise said to Renee Zellweger in "Jerry McGuire"?

    You complete me.


    Great movie. I just saw it again from Netflix. Cuba Gooding Jr. was amazing. Won an Oscar.

    Sound advice 2Sox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Boo. Re-live your youth!
    No thanks. I have enough regret from things I did with women to last me a lifetime. I'd like to think I've learned some lessons.

    BTW, I know you're joking around but this cuts close to my heart. I hope that other men could avoid the things I did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by powerlifterty16 View Post
    lol im destined to be alone...something about me repulses girls
    I used to blame it on low t, but that's obviously not the case

    btw 2sox, you misread dread's post. he has a gf, jsut prefers to be alone
    Power,

    I've been giving some thought to what you said here. Sometimes we joke about the most painful things to us. I consider you a friend and I want you to know that I respect your self criticism. It's something that us men historically, have not been good at. (Not to say women don't have this too, but it has come to a certain severe point with men.) It's always easier to point a finger rather than look at ourselves. If we keep on doing that, we can never change.

    Something I've learned over the course of many years of study and experience is that when a man has good will for a woman, he is irresistible to her. There is a kindness in his eyes that can be seen and felt. A good body, muscles, and a handsome face can't compete with good will. I'm seeing for myself that the study of good will - and what interferes with it - contempt - never ends. I could say more if you or anyone else would like to PM me.

    Although this discussion strays from the thread, I think it's good for members to encourage each other when an opportunity arises. IMO, that's part of what we are all here for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Sox View Post
    Power,

    I've been giving some thought to what you said here. Sometimes we joke about the most painful things to us. I consider you a friend and I want you to know that I respect your self criticism. It's something that us men historically, have not been good at. (Not to say women don't have this too, but it has come to a certain severe point with men.) It's always easier to point a finger rather than look at ourselves. If we keep on doing that, we can never change.

    Something I've learned over the course of many years of study and experience is that when a man has good will for a woman, he is irresistible to her. There is a kindness in his eyes that can be seen and felt. A good body, muscles, and a handsome face can't compete with good will. I'm seeing for myself that the study of good will - and what interferes with it - contempt - never ends. I could say more if you or anyone else would like to PM me.

    Although this discussion strays from the thread, I think it's good for members to encourage each other when an opportunity arises. IMO, that's part of what we are all here for.
    thanks for the support

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerlifterty16 View Post
    thanks for the support
    It's my pleasure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Sox View Post
    Power,

    I've been giving some thought to what you said here. Sometimes we joke about the most painful things to us. I consider you a friend and I want you to know that I respect your self criticism. It's something that us men historically, have not been good at. (Not to say women don't have this too, but it has come to a certain severe point with men.) It's always easier to point a finger rather than look at ourselves. If we keep on doing that, we can never change.

    Something I've learned over the course of many years of study and experience is that when a man has good will for a woman, he is irresistible to her. There is a kindness in his eyes that can be seen and felt. A good body, muscles, and a handsome face can't compete with good will. I'm seeing for myself that the study of good will - and what interferes with it - contempt - never ends. I could say more if you or anyone else would like to PM me.

    Although this discussion strays from the thread, I think it's good for members to encourage each other when an opportunity arises. IMO, that's part of what we are all here for.
    Very nice 2sox. And you should say more. Consider starting a thread on the topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Very nice 2sox. And you should say more. Consider starting a thread on the topic.
    Kel,
    Thanks for the encouragement. I'll definitely consider it.
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    i agree with kel, post a thread sox. Im also curious about any updates with his doc.
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