Why isn't there a starting protocol thread?

[jomamma007]

There have been a lot of people asking lately about starting protocols lately.
We should have a simple sticky, something like the ideal starting testosterone regimen would consist of, unless we already do an I seem to be missing it.

Starting Protocol
TESTOSTERONE-100mgs testosterone cypionate or enanthate per week split into two 50mgs doses ideally 3.5 days apart
HCG-250ius of hcg 2-3 per week, higher dosage is unnecessary and will only lead to elevated estrogen levels.
AI-not taken until follow up blood work reveals elevated levels.

An example protocol

Monday- am 50mgs testosterone, 250iu hcg
Tuesday/
Wednesday-250ius hcg
Thursday- pm 50mgs testosterone
Friday-250iu HCG
Sat & Sun/

blood work at 6 weeks to check if an aromatise inhibitor is needed.

If estrogen is only slightly elevated add 50-75mg Zinc/2-300DIM/2-3mg copper and re-test bloods in 4 weeks.

If estrogen is too high considering titrated dose down 20mgs and re-test bloods in 4 weeks as it's best to avoid an ai.

If estrogen still remains high and lowering testosterone dosage further would lead to a lower then mid total and free t, start with a low dose or arimidex , say .25mgs twice per week the following day after testosterone injections. Follow up labs after 4 weeks. Adjust dosage accordingly.

Useful supplements
Vitamin D3-10k per day to lower SHBG,
Nettle Root
Zinc-50mgs per day
DHEA and PREGNENOLONE shouldn't be taken from start, wait for base level blood work.

[EverettCD]

Well done.

I looked but couldn't find anything like this in the stickies. Good idea for this to be stickied. This question pops up multiple times per week.

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[Low Testosterone]

100mg/wk of Cypionate or Enanthate is often a good starting point and that's a good starting point on the HCG . And I almost agree fully on the no Anastrozole until followup blood work is done. The exception would be a significantly overweight individual. Sometimes it's OK to start them on a very low dose, say 0.25mg once per week. And I would also say it's OK to prescribe it in between the initial prescription and followup blood work if strong gynecomastia symptoms begin to show.

The only comment I would really disagree with is that HCG above 250/2x/wk is unnecessary. I've seen that said here a handful of times but that doesn't always hold true. Some men do much better on 350iu/2x/wk and there are plenty of men who do just fine on 500iu/2x/wk without estradiol problems. I'm not saying they're a large majority but they're not a insignificant minority either.