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    To Restart, or not to RestarT?

    so I'm suffering from adrenal issues and just realized this. Now I'm working on recovering, but want to try a restart as I feel this was the reason behind my most of my symtpoms.
    Also being 22 years old i don't want to be on trt yet.

    Should I hop off and try a restart or try to fix my adrenals this year then hop off when they are fully functioning? I know injecting test can affect the adrenals, the reason dhea goes down while on trt and I don't know if I should just get off testosterone yet.

    I've felt a drastic mental change since beginning trt, feeling very positive and confident (had extreme anxiety problems before), but haven't felt the physical effects.
    Kinda thinking that losing that mental edge plus being physical screwed up from adrenal fatigue is a bad combo.
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    what is your protocol, and have you done follow up BW? if so post it all with ranges so we can see what's going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bass View Post
    what is your protocol, and have you done follow up BW? if so post it all with ranges so we can see what's going on.
    Everything seems great, which makes me attribute all my symptoms to adrenal problems...

    40mgs twice per week, no ai, no hcg , 50mgs dhea and preg daily

    CBC With Differential/Platelet
    WBC 4.8 3.4-10.8 x10E3/uL SO
    RBC 5.12 4.14-5.80 x10E6/uL SO
    Hemoglobin 15.7 12.6-17.7 g/dL SO
    Hematocrit 46.6 37.5-51.0 % SO
    MCV 91 79-97 fL SO
    MCH 30.7 26.6-33.0 pg SO
    MCHC 33.7 31.5-35.7 g/dL SO
    RDW 13.0 12.3-15.4 % SO
    Platelets 259 155-379 x10E3/uL SO
    Neutrophils 58 40-74 % SO
    Lymphs 34 14-46 % SO
    Monocytes 6 4-12 % SO
    Eos 2 0-5 % SO
    Basos 0 0-3 % SO
    Neutrophils (Absolute) 2.8 1.4-7.0 x10E3/uL SO
    Lymphs (Absolute) 1.7 0.7-3.1 x10E3/uL SO
    Monocytes(Absolute) 0.3 0.1-0.9 x10E3/uL SO
    Eos (Absolute) 0.1 0.0-0.4 x10E3/uL SO
    Baso (Absolute) 0.0 0.0-0.2 x10E3/uL SO
    Immature Granulocytes 0 0-2 % SO
    Immature Grans (Abs) 0.0 0.0-0.1 x10E3/uL SO

    Comp. Metabolic Panel (14)
    Glucose, Serum 80 65-99 mg/dL SO
    BUN 13 6-20 mg/dL SO
    Creatinine, Serum 0.95 0.76-1.27 mg/dL SO
    eGFR If NonAfricn Am 113 >59 mL/min/1.73 SO
    eGFR If Africn Am 131 >59 mL/min/1.73 SO
    BUN/Creatinine Ratio 14 8-19 SO
    Sodium, Serum 138 134-144 mmol/L SO
    Potassium, Serum 4.2 3.5-5.2 mmol/L SO
    Chloride, Serum 99 97-108 mmol/L SO
    Carbon Dioxide, Total 24 19-28 mmol/L SO
    Calcium, Serum 9.7 8.7-10.2 mg/dL SO
    Protein, Total, Serum 6.6 6.0-8.5 g/dL SO
    Albumin, Serum 4.4 3.5-5.5 g/dL SO
    Globulin, Total 2.2 1.5-4.5 g/dL SO
    A/G Ratio 2.0 1.1-2.5 SO
    Bilirubin, Total 0.8 0.0-1.2 mg/dL SO
    Alkaline Phosphatase, S 57 39-117 IU/L SO
    AST (SGOT) 21 0-40 IU/L SO
    ALT (SGPT) 23 0-44 IU/L SO

    Urinalysis, Routine
    Specific Gravity 1.007 1.005-1.030 SO
    pH 6.5 5.0-7.5 SO
    Urine-Color Yellow Yellow SO
    Appearance Clear Clear SO
    WBC Esterase Negative Negative SO
    Protein Negative Negative/Trace SO
    Glucose Negative Negative SO
    Ketones Negative Negative SO
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    Occult Blood Negative Negative SO
    Bilirubin Negative Negative SO
    Urobilinogen,Semi-Qn 0.2 0.0-1.9 mg/dL SO
    Nitrite, Urine Negative Negative SO
    Microscopic Examination Comment SO
    Microscopic follows if indicated.

    Lipid Panel
    Cholesterol, Total 119 100-189 mg/dL SO
    Triglycerides 63 0-114 mg/dL SO
    HDL Cholesterol 41 >39 mg/dL SO
    According to ATP-III Guidelines, HDL-C >59 mg/dL is considered a
    negative risk factor for CHD.
    VLDL Cholesterol Cal 13 5-40 mg/dL SO
    LDL Cholesterol Calc 65 0-119 mg/dL SO

    Iron and TIBC
    Iron Bind.Cap.(TIBC) 341 250-450 ug/dL SO
    UIBC 109 LOW 150-375 ug/dL SO
    Iron, Serum 232 HIGH 40-155 ug/dL SO
    Iron Saturation 68 HIGH 15-55 % SO


    Vitamin B12 and Folate
    Vitamin B12 936 211-946 pg/mL SO
    Folate (Folic Acid), Serum 18.5 >3.0 ng/mL SO
    A serum folate concentration of less than 3.1 ng/mL is
    considered to represent clinical deficiency.

    Testosterone,Free and Total
    Testosterone , Serum 772 348-1197 ng/dL SO
    Free Testosterone(Direct) 15.6 9.3-26.5 pg/mL BN

    Hemoglobin A1c
    Hemoglobin A1c 5.0 4.8-5.6 % SO
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    Increased risk for diabetes: 5.7 - 6.4
    Diabetes: >6.4
    Glycemic control for adults with diabetes: <7.0

    TSH
    TSH 2.400 0.450-4.500 uIU/mL SO
    Thyroxine (T4) Free, Direct, S
    T4,Free(Direct) 1.44 0.82-1.77 ng/dL SO
    Triiodothyronine,Free,Serum
    Triiodothyronine,Free,Serum 3.5 2.0-4.4 pg/mL SO

    DHEA-Sulfate
    DHEA-Sulfate 405.4 164.3-530.5 ug/dL SO

    Luteinizing Hormone(LH), S
    LH <0.2 LOW 1.7-8.6 mIU/mL SO

    FSH, Serum
    FSH <0.2 LOW 1.5-12.4 mIU/mL SO

    Prolactin
    Prolactin 11.4 4.0-15.2 ng/mL SO

    Prostate-Specific Ag, Serum
    Prostate Specific Ag, Serum 0.3 0.0-4.0 ng/mL SO

    C-Reactive Protein, Cardiac
    C-Reactive Protein, Cardiac 0.71 0.00-3.00 mg/L SO
    Relative Risk for Future Cardiovascular Event
    Low <1.00
    Average 1.00 - 3.00
    High >3.00

    Estradiol, Sensitive
    Estradiol, Sensitive 19 3-70 pg/mL BN

    GGT
    GGT 11 0-65 IU/L SO

    Magnesium, Serum
    Magnesium, Serum 1.8 1.6-2.6 mg/dL SO

    Insulin
    Insulin 4.0 2.6-24.9 uIU/mL SO

    Ferritin, Serum
    Ferritin, Serum 64 30-400 ng/mL SO


    Sex Horm Binding Glob, Serum
    Sex Horm Binding Glob, Serum 34.5 16.5-55.9 nmol/L SO

    ACTH, Plasma 39.9 7.2-63.3 pg/mL SO

    Reverse T3, Serum 18.5 9.2-24.1 ng/dL

    No thyroid meds.

    RT3 Ratio: 18.9

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    not bad at all. it could be in your head, being on TRT at a young age can be concerning. however i noticed you lipids being on the low side, are you eating enough? what's your diet like? if you decide to restart you're simply going to go back to where you were, which i am sure is no better that what you're feeling now!

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    no test for cortisol? How do you know you're suffering with adrenal fatigue? It's cool they tested for ATCH, but you need to corresponding cortisol levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bass View Post
    not bad at all. it could be in your head, being on TRT at a young age can be concerning. however i noticed you lipids being on the low side, are you eating enough? what's your diet like? if you decide to restart you're simply going to go back to where you were, which i am sure is no better that what you're feeling now!
    What can be concerning about being on trt at a young age bass? Just curious lol trying to gain some knowledge now drop the knowledge ball on me lulz

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