Just found something crazy

[testytim]

Hi i have been on trt for about 6 years or more. I have not had the results that i was expecting. Some background on this. I have been on patchs creams compound creams testem and now injections Been about 1.5 years on that..I went on test because i felt like shit had all the symptoms except E/D. Had all the tests and made the plunge.Never really felt good basically i felt good on somedays some not. No pattern.. Anyway i started to notice something weird..I would feel better on days i forgot to inject..The more days i missed the better i felt...So i went on a mission...My protocol was all over the road i tried different doses from 120mgs to 60 mgs...Right now i do 25 mgs e3d and i feel better then i have in years....WTF is going on my last B/w came back at low 500s and free in the middle..Am i a freak whats up why so much different then most.

[bass]

more is less when it comes to TRT. I can't explain the symptoms your getting but being dial in on TRT is exactly like dialing in a station on a radio, you got to hit it right. having your protocol allover the road as you say that might be your problem! have you done BW recently? if so post it all with ranges.

[testytim]

Sorry bass , let me re praise that my protocol has always been consistant .Be it creams or injections. The only thing that has been constant is. I never really felt right no matter what the protocol was I have had so many blood tests its crazy..I have been tested. I was at 1400 plus and as low as of late was 585 all lap corp numbers .That last test was on 35 e3d..Today i am on 25 e3d. 10 mgs e3d dont seen like much difference but i can really tell big time.

As a side note Bass i was under DR MARK GORDON he had no answers for me this honestly was something i wanted to share maybe some other members this might help everyone seem to think they need more not less. If this really fixs some of my issues.. This will not be my last post.

[Trevtrev]

I think bass meant to say less is more.

Good info testy, keep it coming.

Do you also run hCG ?

[bass]

I think bass meant to say less is more.

Good info testy, keep it coming.

Do you also run hCG?

both ways, when taking too much you get more sides and end up having less quality of life. I said more is less because he was taking more than he needed. its a mystery why he's having these symptoms. the only thing I can think of is nutrition.

[Ridgback]

How is your sleep quality ? do you have, or is the higher T causing Sleep apnea?, unless witnessed by another you can remain unaware which is what happened to me, was always a restless sleeper untill woken one night by the wife telling me i was not breathing.

Just a thought.

Gav

[kelkel]

If you feel good on less and you're healthy with no issues, who cares why. Be happy!

[vmons01]

I felt like crap for a long time at 145mg/week of test cyp with test at 815. Went down to 120-130 with test at 640 and feel awesome! All my other numbers have always been dialed in.

[Brett N]

testytim, do you happen to remember where your estrogen numbers were when you were having all these symptoms even with higher test?

I know that when I had low estrogen because I was taking too much anastrozole I felt like crap. Citting my dose in half on my AI made a world of difference in my life.