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    Question about blasts

    I'm not on trt (yet) but I'm curious about trt blasts. I know typically speaking, oral only cycles are frowned upon. However, with trt is an oral only cycle acceptable? For instance, a 6 week bulking cycle with dbol and your regular trt dose? Or a cutting cycle with var?

    Does it work like that?

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    Well, you'll always have a test base so suppression is not an issue as with oral only cycles. That said, sure you can use orals. Just be knowledgeable of the chosen compound and the effects it may have on E2, liver, etc. You should take nac for liver support anyway but if on orals the dose should be ramped up.

    If you going to blast the main thing to remember is that any new tissue gained must continue to be supported with more calories when off your blast. Otherwise it was just temporary fun and money down the drain.
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    Well naturally, like I said I'm not even started yet, plan on going at least a year on trt before any sort of cycle.

    As always, kel with the knowledge. Man, they should label you as a specialist or something

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    One other thing, would the oral cycle be limited such as in a regular front load? For instance 6-7 weeks as a max?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawk14dl View Post
    One other thing, would the oral cycle be limited such as in a regular front load? For instance 6-7 weeks as a max?
    No need to front load anything. Especially orals. 6-8 weeks is fine, dose dependent. Really a good idea to pull BW immediately after an oral cycle to see exactly what's happening inside you (liver) etc. Great learning tool.
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    Yeah I'm sorry, what I meant is on a non trt cycle you would use the orals for the first 6 to 8 weeks (id call that a front load I guess? ). From there on out it would be all test.
    The question I meant to ask was, is 6-8 weeks a limit on trt as well? I'd assume yes, because of liver toxicity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawk14dl View Post
    Yeah I'm sorry, what I meant is on a non trt cycle you would use the orals for the first 6 to 8 weeks (id call that a front load I guess? ). From there on out it would be all test.

    More a kick start.

    The question I meant to ask was, is 6-8 weeks a limit on trt as well? I'd assume yes, because of liver toxicity?
    Correct. Everything goes through the liver.
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    Kelkel, when you say to increase calories post cycle to maintain the gains, do you mean the increase in tdee resulting from increased muscle mass?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bartman314 View Post
    Kelkel, when you say to increase calories post cycle to maintain the gains, do you mean the increase in tdee resulting from increased muscle mass?
    Yes. Gotta support it or you lose it.
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    Why do an oral blast? You are already injecting, why not just add deca or something else and ease up on the liver?

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    i agree with beethoven. deca is easier on your body.

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