SubQ for higher body fat individuals

[Novice489]

I'm about 25% body fat and have a bit of a stomach. Should I avoid particularly fatty areas when injecting subq? I've been injecting my Test into the thighs which are much leaner and HCG into love handles. I'm concerned that the Test/hCG will spend its half life floating around in fat and never reach the blood stream.

[Beethoven]

I'm not at 25% but I sub q into my belly fat area. Works good for me.

[kelkel]

Subcutaneous administration of testosterone. A p... [Saudi Med J. 2006] - PubMed - NCBI

[Novice489]

Subcutaneous administration of testosterone. A p... [Saudi Med J. 2006] - PubMed - NCBI

Interesting read. I didn't find anything on body fat in the article but I'm guessing it isn't really a factor.

[Ryanmcd]

I do subQ in my quad now, you can subQ anyplace and I think the stomach is prob the worst and most painful at least for me.

[kelkel]

Interesting read. I didn't find anything on body fat in the article but I'm guessing it isn't really a factor.

My point exactly.

[Novice489]

I do subQ in my quad now, you can subQ anyplace and I think the stomach is prob the worst and most painful at least for me.

I've injecting into the glutes with a 1" needle. I'm realizing there's a very high probability that I've doing SubQ all this time.

[DAAS]

I used insulin syringes during my last cycle and found it to work just fine. Not sure if better absorption is made with intramuscular, but the insulin syringes were easier.

[DAAS]

I do subQ in my quad now, you can subQ anyplace and I think the stomach is prob the worst and most painful at least for me.

I find the stomach to be best. Its the only area on me that has any fat really though.

[Novice489]

I find the stomach to be best. Its the only area on me that has any fat really though.

Wish I could say the same.

I've used a 30g insulin syringe in the past but ended up with a red inflamed bump that took a week or so to go away. I seem to be having better luck with a 25g needle.

[GFA]

I'm about 25% body fat and have a bit of a stomach. Should I avoid particularly fatty areas when injecting subq? I've been injecting my Test into the thighs which are much leaner and HCG into love handles. I'm concerned that the Test/hCG will spend its half life floating around in fat and never reach the blood stream.

I created a thread awhile ago regarding SubQ vs IM. For many of us with higher BF%, subq was less effective. I only use IM now.
http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-re...m-labwork.html

Summary of thread.

Adding in Age and Weight/BF if you have it.

GFA - 210 lbs, 41 years old ~20-25% Bf?
Baseline 284 ng/dL (Total test)
SQ 366 ng/dL (Total test) 102.9 ng/dL range 40.0-250.0 (F+W Bound) 100mg (1x100 weekly) - Into Belly
IM 792 ng/dL (Total test) 243.1 ng/dL range 40.0-250.0 (F+W Bound) 100mg (1x100 weekly)
IM 923 ng/dL (Total test) 366.7 ng/dL range 40.0-250.0 (F+W Bound) 120mg (1x weekly)
SQ 638 ng/dL (Total test) 229.7 ng/dL range 40.0-250.0 (F+W Bound) 120mg (2x60 weekly) - Into Thigh

badrad123 - 46 years old, ~22% BF
Base 195 (Total test)
SQ 375 (Total test) 80 mg test (40mg 2x a week)
IM ?
Summary - Most recent test of 375 TT seems to indicate badrad is not responsive to belly SQ injections.

clarkster
Base 175 (Total test)
SQ 505 (Total test) 100 mg test (50mg 2x a week) 250 ius hcg 3x a week
IM 781 200mg week
Summary - too many things changed but TT still seems low for hcg + 100mg test.

rhoag
Baseline 304
SQ 394 ng/dL (Total test) 50mg x2
SQ 852 ng/dL (Total test) 75mg x 2
SQ 493 ng/dL (Total test) 60mg x 2 + HCG + AI

dhickey
Baseline 243 ng/dL (Total test)
SERM 429 ng/dL (Total test) 20mg Tamoxifen ED.
IM 1223 ng/dL (Total test) 100mg IM x2, 250iu HCG SQ x2
SQ 508 ng/dL (Total test) 60mg x2 SQ, 250iu HCG SQ x2
SQ 745 ng/dL (Total test) 80mg x2 SQ, 250iu HCG SQ x2

lacy23
Baseline 284 ng/dL (Total test)
SQ 400 ng/dL (Total test) 13mg test ED SQ, 80 iu HCG ED SQ
IM 720 ng/dL (Total test) 65mg E5D IM, 200iu HCG 2 days before Test

Allaaro
Baseline 19.1 (Free test) range 31-94 range
SQ 56.5 (Free test) 150mg (3x50mg)
IM 121.1 (Free test) 200mg (2x100mg)
Summary - 30% increase in test yields 150% higher free test levels. Would like to see similar levels of test injected per week and total test. Your free test increases look similar to mine in terms of percentages.

Booku - 23 years old, ~10-15% BF
Baseline 70 ng/dL (Total test) 1.7 pg/mL range 9.3-26.5 pg/mL (free test)
SQ 920 (Total Test) 100mg (2x50mg)
IM ?
Summary - Responds well to SQ injections. Age, activity or BF levels play a role? Booku switched from belly to thigh injections.

Ratt
Baseline 256 ng/dL
SQ 450 ng/dL 100mg (2x50mg)
IM 750-900 ng/dL (120mg weekly, frequency unknown)
Summary - 300-450 ng/dL reduction using SQ.

38onTRT
Baseline ?
SQ 486 ng/dL 100mg (2x50mg) along with 500 iu HCG weekly and AI
IM ?
Summary - Unknown but @100mg test a week + hcg, test should be much higher, closer to double reported values. Switching back to IM and will report updated BW. Recommendation to keep the protocol the same with the exception of injection type (IM vs SQ).

Ryanmcd
Baseline ?
SQ - No data but quote "I felt like crap on SQ and went back to IM, no bloodwork to show but I know when I take naps again and dick is broke my test was low lol."
IM 750 ng/dL 100mg (1x100)

Rollingthunder -AGE 53, weight 240, BF mid 20s
Baseline ?
SQ 9 (7.2-24.0) (free test) 100mg (50mgx2)
IM 24 (7.2-24.0) (free test) 100mg (1x100mg)
Summary - There was a huge drop in test switching to SQ, some other variables such as HCG added, AI dropped during SQ phase.

HRTStudent
Baseline ?
SQ - 120mg (3x40mg weekly) + AI
IM - 150mg (2x75mg weekly) + AI
Summary - Need values. Difficult to make a determination on efficacy. Different dosages, lab draw, AI, testosterone amounts. Says numbers are similar, appears to metabolize via SQ at a lower rate than many of the others.

Summary - It appears injecting into belly fat for people with higher BF% is ineffective for SQ. 2nd round performed SQ into thigh only by GFA with better results. SQ still not as effective or reliable as IM even when injecting into lower BF regions. Additional testing is required.

[GFA]

Take my thread with a grain of salt of course. Everyone is different. My tests were with test-cyp only. No AI, no HCG . Sub-Q was much less effective in my belly vs thigh. Even in my thigh, it was less effective than IM.

For now I am only doing IM.

[Novice489]

Take my thread with a grain of salt of course. Everyone is different. My tests were with test-cyp only. No AI, no HCG . Sub-Q was much less effective in my belly vs thigh. Even in my thigh, it was less effective than IM.

For now I am only doing IM.

Thanks for the info! The few times I've injected into belly fat I've felt shitty (not scientific at all I know). Injecting Sub Q into glutes or thighs is currently working well for me. I'll run labs in a few weeks to see how i'm doing.

[2Sox]

I used insulin syringes during my last cycle and found it to work just fine. Not sure if better absorption is made with intramuscular, but the insulin syringes were easier.

DAAS,

I must make a confession to you. I wasn't able to adequately pay attention to what you wrote in your posts because I was rather distracted by the photo for your avatar. My apologies. ;-)