I'm On my 4th month of TRT. Ran the first 6 weeks at 160mg a week (.4CC x 2 a week) and bumped up to 200mg (.5 CC x 2). I know I haven't found my sweet spot yet, but this is because muscle building is my priority. I'll put bloods below if anyone wants to see. I just got my hands on HAVOC and was going to run it for 4-6 weeks to cut up for summer and started thinking "maybe I should wait until I maximize what the TRT has to offer". I read a thread ... 12-16 weeks for muscle mass changes stabilizing at 6 months on TRT... If this is true, should one not be riding TRT at least 6+ months before popping orals on top or blasting with more test.