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05-17-2014, 08:43 PM #1New Member
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Eating before injecting GHRP's/ taking GHB(Xyrem)
I inject a high dose GHRP combo just before going to sleep at night only for anti-aging medicine purposes. I've also started eating healthier, taking creatine before exercise, bcaa's during and glutamine after.
I was told by the prescriber not to eat anything for two hours before injecting and to go straight to sleep after injecting and not eat anything because food before and after can bind to the pituitary and weaken the effect of the peptide so that GH is not produced and that these peptides only stay in the body for a very short time and since your body produces GH while in slow wave sleep, I have to go straight to bed or the peptides will not work nearly as well. Someone else told me the same thing except that zero carb/zero fat protein shakes are ok.That it's only fat and carbs that bind to the receptors in the pituitary. Not eating 2 hours before bed is no problem but when I lay down to sleep I often get really hungry and can't sleep on an empty stomach.I'll roll around in bed for and hour then go and eat a bunch of food. GHRP-6 which is usually what causes the 'munchies' in most patients is not part of my protocol, just sermorelin, ipamorelin and ghrp2.
Bodybuilder often inject these same peptides several times throughout the day with good results but they may only be getting benefits in igf-1 levels, I don't know?
I'm thinking about adding prescription GHB, marketed as Xyrem, which decreases appetite and increases slow wave sleep so that would eliminate the eating/sleeping problem and increase GH production through increased slow wave sleep.
Is it really necessary for me to stop eating 2 hours before bed and go straight to bed after injecting, or adding GHB(xyrem) as a sleep aid ….or am i still likely to receive the same benefits from the therapy without making changes. or maybe doing something else altogether.
I'm new to all this, i've done a good amount of research on my own but there is so much misinformation out there. Any advice from people with real experience who are not trying to sell me something would be really helpful. I've been on therapy for a little while and i see/feel some benefits, mainly improved sleep and some minor weight loss in my gut, but that can be attributed to the diet and exercise.
Thanks.
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05-17-2014, 09:21 PM #2
Presently, I doing some research into GH peptides also. I'd recommend you do a search for datbtrue. There is a wealth of information and you can join that forum to get answers to your questions.
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05-17-2014, 09:33 PM #3
I've read that about carbs/fats blunting the GH response and that protein is OK. However, there are very few protein only sources. Most will have trace carbs and/or fats.
I've ran GHRP-2 and -6 separately alongside mod grf 1-29 for months. I've ran them up to 5x a day (which was tough). -2 actually gave me more increased appetite that -6 did.
Honestly, I think they're junk. Via bloodwork, they did increase my IGF levels. However, I didn't notice any extra fat loss nor any benefits to sleep. I did notice an increase in water retention. Quite a bit. Which that is a side effect.
Some people like and stand by them. I'd like to see more information/studies done. Where GHRP/GNRH are the only differing factors between the test groups.
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05-18-2014, 01:01 AM #4Senior Member
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If it was not HGH or CJC-1295 (not in that order) I would be hard pressed to get all excited on peptides. There is a reason some peptides are expensive and some are not...results.
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05-19-2014, 02:47 PM #5
Take them on an empty stomach and no carbs/fats for at least 30 minutes, protein is ok. If you are using them before bed try to just eat protein so you can maximize fat loss while sleeping.
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05-19-2014, 03:02 PM #6
The blunting effect isn't as bad as you think, you will still receive a reasonable benefit to administering peptides. My main experience is with ghrp2 and mod grf(1-29), I think the proper mod grf(1-29) should be included with whichever ghrp you choose.
So my advice is a few things, go ahead and eat, and dose right before you go to bed. Or you can try taking mucuna pruriens eod with your peptides, which can help you sleep and deal with the temporary rise in prolactin. Or you can dose peptides two hours after fats, one hour after carbs, and eat as early as 15 minutes after the dose, but personally I wouldn't consume slow digesting carbs before bed. And like what was mentioned 0 carb and 0 fat protein is usually fine any time.
Health and well being wise, you are better off doing something that allows you to get to sleep quickly than making the most out of the peptides. Like I said as well there is info out there about the blunting effects, and they are still effective even considering them.
I tend to get immediate hunger increases from peptides, that goes away quickly, but if I dose them very frequent then I have an increased appetite in general.
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