hCG Daily WITH Daily Testosterone

[2Sox]

It seems there are many who are now injecting their hCG daily at low doses (e.g.. 100iu/day). I'm thinking for those who are going through the trouble of daily injections, why not add their testosterone along with it in the same syringe - breaking up their weekly amount into smaller doses? I believe this would greatly reduce E2 conversion.

I've just started doing just this. My protocol: 100iu hCG, 15mg T Cyp - both daily and SQ.

(*As a side note, as soon as I started daily hCG - as opposed to 250iu 2x week - I felt immediately better. My libido and energy are excellent. I believe my E2 levels started to lower. I haven't needed aromasin in over a week and I hope this continues.)

I'm interested in knowing your thoughts on this.

[Black]

I've switched to daily hcg injections and feel the benefits more (and continue to) than on 2x a week dosing. I also split my TRT into daily injections. I no longer need an AI.

Using 29G 1/2" insulin needles makes this all the easier and more manageable in the long run.

[2Sox]

I've switched to daily hcg injections and feel the benefits more (and continue to) than on 2x a week dosing. I also split my TRT into daily injections. I no longer need an AI.

This is very good news.

[xcraider37]

It seems there are many who are now injecting their hCG daily at low doses (e.g.. 100iu/day). I'm thinking for those who are going through the trouble of daily injections, why not add their testosterone along with it in the same syringe - breaking up their weekly amount into smaller doses? I believe this would greatly reduce E2 conversion.

I've just started doing just this. My protocol: 100iu hCG, 15mg T Cyp - both daily and SQ.

(*As a side note, as soon as I started daily hCG - as opposed to 250iu 2x week - I felt immediately better. My libido and energy are excellent. I believe my E2 levels started to lower. I haven't needed aromasin in over a week and I hope this continues.)

I'm interested in knowing your thoughts on this.

Is it a problem injecting this often. When does a scar tissue problem start?

[2Sox]

Is it a problem injecting this often. When does a scar tissue problem start?

No problem at all and no scarring at all. This is all SQ with 29 gauge insulin syringe.

[hawk14dl]

Interesting.
Curious though, how do you push air in the vial if you've already loaded the syringe?

[hawk14dl]

Also, when would you draw blood for testing? Inject at every morning? Draw blood prior to injection? Pre load syringes (and if so wouldn't you need to keep them in the fridge? )

Sorry, many questions. I'm very interested. I'm injecting mt2 daily right now so the daily inject doesn't sound bad

[jasondd1]

Ive started to inject hcg daily since I'm already injecting ipam and cjc 4 times a day anyway. I preload 4 syringes each evening with as many as 4 different peptides.

[2Sox]

Hawk,

I don't push air into the vial and I don't have a problem with drawing. If you do, I guess you can just do it with and empty syringe.

As far as blood work - I'd just test before injecting that day. The point is you are going to have a very steady, consistent level of T.

[joebailey1271]

So do you mix the test with the HCG?

[2Sox]

Yes. Easily done. I usually use cyanocobalamin (B-12) and bac NaCl to dilute the hCG. It's red. You can see the separation line clearly and since oil and water don't mix you can be sure what you are injecting and where. It doesn't really matter though. I have my own technique. I try to inject in three different places. My logic is the more material exposed to the body area, the more of a chance for faster absorption.

[Beethoven]

Hope it goes well. I'm just considering now going to every other day test. You are an innovator my friend.

[2Sox]

Hope it goes well. I'm just considering now going to every other day test. You are an innovator my friend.

Thank you. I must say that since I started this regimen I've been feeling fantastic. Will update periodically.

[rplante7]

So do you use the same needle to draw the hcg and test into the syringe and a new needle to inject?

[2Sox]

So do you use the same needle to draw the hcg and test into the syringe and a new needle to inject?

I only use one size insulin syringes and I use the same one to draw and to inject both materials with.

[ppwc1985]

2sox I know it's not hard to pull test in smaller needle but I to insulin syringe, does it pull in easy?

[2Sox]

2sox I know it's not hard to pull test in smaller needle but I to insulin syringe, does it pull in easy?

No, it doesn't draw out easily at all! Takes a minute or two. Just got to set the time aside and be patient. It works for me and I think shouldn't be a problem for anyone.

[Black]

2sox I know it's not hard to pull test in smaller needle but I to insulin syringe, does it pull in easy?

It will take longer than a bigger gauge of course. But since you are injecting ED, the amount is small and takes no time at all.

[ppwc1985]

I'm actually thinking about trying this, my AI messes my lipids up so now I'm on Lipitor even though I refuse to take Ed. Taking EOD right now.

[j2048b]

Ok sox, how much b12 do u put in the hcg? U also use bac water qnd how much?

[2Sox]

Ok sox, how much b12 do u put in the hcg? U also use bac water qnd how much?

I mix 1mL B-12 with 1.5mL bacteriostatic NaCl water (much cheaper than regular bacteriostatic water). That's a 2.5mL dilution to 5000iu hCG. So when reconstituted I get 100iu/0.05mL - my daily dose. Nice red color inside the barrel.

[KJ63]

so... The HCG does more than keep your nuts from shrinking? I'm still in the learning phase... lol I still feel like shit for about 4 hrs after my injections,, maybe HCG would help

[2Sox]

so... The HCG does more than keep your nuts from shrinking? I'm still in the learning phase... lol I still feel like shit for about 4 hrs after my injections,, maybe HCG would help

What are you injecting, how much and how often?

[Trevtrev]

2Sox,

Do you use compounded test or something like Watson?

I know that it seems to take forever to pull "smooth compounded" test using a 25g. Curious with the thicker ones. Sometimes I wonder if it will ever start drawing, but it eventually does.

I might also give this a shot after my next E2 test.

[2Sox]

I use Watson. I have a vial of Sun Phama that looks less viscous and I wonder if it will be easier.

[kelkel]

2Sox,

I know that it seems to take forever to pull "smooth compounded" test using a 25g. .

Load with a larger gauge tip.

[Trevtrev]

Load with a larger gauge tip.

I ran out of 18's

Waiting for my recent BW to come back then I might give 2Sox routine a try

[2Sox]

I ran out of 18's

Waiting for my recent BW to come back then I might give 2Sox routine a try

When you do, draw out the hCG first before the T. If you draw the T first, you have to pull with more force. Then when you draw the hCG that tendency to pull hard might cause you to pull in too much hCG. Then you have a problem of having too much hCG inside the syringe and not being able to put it back into the vial. It happened to me.

My advice: Draw hCG first then the T.

[Trevtrev]

When you started your daily regimen, did you start on the day of what would have been your next T shot?

[2Sox]

When you started your daily regimen, did you start on the day of what would have been your next T shot?

That's exactly what I did. BTW, just took 12.5mg Aromasin today for the first time in ten days. Why? No morning wood. Feeling pretty good. Might go to a 12.5mg once a week dosage.

[Beethoven]

That's exactly what I did. BTW, just took 12.5mg Aromasin today for the first time in ten days. Why? No morning wood. Feeling pretty good. Might go to a 12.5mg once a week dosage.

That's the same way I judge when I need to take my AI.

[Trevtrev]

Why not do your new regimen for three weeks without the AI, get bloods and see where your e really is?

Isn't part of the reason for daily to hopefully get rid of AI and better level off the E spikes?

It would be one of my prime motivators for trying it.

[2Sox]

Why not do your new regimen for three weeks without the AI, get bloods and see where your e really is?

Isn't part of the reason for daily to hopefully get rid of AI and better level off the E spikes?

It would be one of my prime motivators for trying it.

Don't need to as far as I'm concerned, the reason of which I explained previously. Hopefully, things will level off and an AI may become old news. Before that happens I have a feeling I'll need to lower my T dose a bit. And frankly, I don't care if I need to take an AI forever. I'm just interested in feeling good and if an AI is part of the package, that's okay with me.

[jwh7699]

Was there ever a time when you weren't taking HCG? And if so how did you feel prior too and after you started taking HCG?

[2Sox]

Was there ever a time when you weren't taking HCG? And if so how did you feel prior too and after you started taking HCG?

I was on TRT for seven months before I began hCG. No contest.

Without hCG:
Stones the size of M&Ms, a scrotum like an infants, orgasms so weak you might not be sure you had one, and barely existent ejaculate. One might say that things were not quite right.

With hCG:
You feel like a man.

[Beethoven]

I was on TRT for seven months before I began hCG. No contest.

Without hCG:
Stones the size of M&Ms, a scrotum like an infants, orgasms so weak you might not be sure you had one, and barely existent ejaculate. One might say that things were not quite right.

With hCG:
You feel like a man.

I agree. My first Dr did not believe in HCG, although I felt better but not great.

[jasondd1]

Ive been doing 100iu of hcg a day for a week or so and notice better and more frequent wood and higher sex drive. i was doing 250 iu 3 times a week.

[hawk14dl]

I messed up and let my hcg run out. I should have my refill today.

I did my test last night as normal. I'll probably go ahead and start the daily protocol tonight. Only thing that may happen would be a temporary (and small) increase in test serum that will level back down. I'm not on ai (in fact my e2 is still low even with test) so e2 won't be a problem with the temporary high test.

I'm also on low t's program. So I had to buy syringes on my own. adds a little cost but worth it

[joebailey1271]

So you have been doing this for a week or so now, do you feel that much better that its worth the daily injections?

[2Sox]

So you have been doing this for a week or so now, do you feel that much better that its worth the daily injections?

Who are you posing this question to?