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First 1-2 weeks no problem but man this is kicking my ass. Might drop down to 20 but I'm not sure it will help much. Anyone else have this? Ive read Anavar can do this to people, and orals in general. Falling asleep at my desk. I'm taking liver protection but can this be liver related?
are you sure its anavar? it is one of the most faked
I got it from a trusted site but you never know I guess. 20 mg tabs with a line to break in 2 but I guess it could be anything.
Buy a labmax kit and test it. Better yet order 2/or 3, it s easy to mess up the test.
Ordered 3 plus a clen test. I got some clen from a research site and always thought it was bunk so now I'll know. Thanks for the infoQuote:
Originally Posted by lovbyts
Let us know how it checks out. The var you use very little to test. To much and it turns dark fast.
I was using supposedly anavar-winny a few weeks ago.
I also felt kinda sleepy or lethargic.
Maybe its the liver working in overdrive from the tabs that get passed through the liver
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It tested as Anavar and I'm still tired but it's getting better.
It is common for orals to make one feel lethargic.Quote:
Originally Posted by jasondd1
I believe it has to do with putting extra stress on the body.
Yeah It makes sense. I would say it makes the liver work in overdrive.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog
My 2 cents
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Of course now I'm shedding hair. I"m 45 with a full head of hair but started losing it at 30 so for the last 10 plus years Ive used a special 15% minoxidil that use to be available in the US but now i order over seas and it stopped the shedding and even regrew a bunch. I haven't shed hair in years but now anavar is changing that up.
It probably isn't Var. Dbol makes me lethargic, but Var never has.
The Labmax test was pretty much spot on for being anavar. It wentr from yellow to light green in 15 minutes just like it said it would if anavar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonaparte
I cant take the lethargy and feeling like shit anymore even at 20 mg a day. I'm quitting and getting blood work tomorrow. I'm guessing my liver values are going to be through the roof.
probley the best thing to do that's why most people don't recommend all oral cycles make sure to do a complete blood work and check t levels as well
I remember trying a havoc/epistane prohrmone cylce before I got on TRT and it hit me this hard as well but I figured that being on 60 mg test twice a week would of helped. I guess it is the liver working it's ass off clearing the poison that is making me so effing tired.Quote:
Originally Posted by djgreen
I probably should've added TUDCA for liver support on top of NAC
I actually was talking to a BB the other day an he said liver support is a scam because he did liver test before during and after a winny cycle and he said the liver support only dropped the values by a couple points and was still high
It's not a scam. No clue what product your friend was using but there are plenty of studies showing it's positive effects on liver values. All without any negative effects as well.
Well I'm 25 hours since my last 10 mg of anavar and I finally feel better. I think I'll wait a week to get my blood tested. I was using it for a cut and i did lose a total of 11 pounds in 9 weeks(5 of those weeks on var)but no strength gains. Although I haven't lost much strength and i usually do when I lose weight. If i decide to try it again I will definitely front load with TUDCA but I'm kind of doubting I will.
I wasn't saying it for a fact I just thought it was interesting, and he said he tried milk thistle TUDCA and all the main liver supports and he clamed they worked so little that he doesn't even bother and nothing has changed since he quit taking liver support but that may just be how his body works
Milk Thistle is known to be VERY weak with liver support. TUDCA is still questionable, some test show its good and some?? UDCA is supposed to be the best but also $$$ You can get it from AR-R. I still use milk thistle, Liv52 and TUDCA combination.Quote:
Originally Posted by djgreen
So if i get this right if the lethargy is due to the liver being over taxed even at 20-30 mg a day then adding more liver support than just NAC might help? I only did NAC because it was considered mild and my dose super low. Ive got tons of var let over and might try again next summer.
What brand is your var?
Biomex Labs.
I just read the lab results form the place I bought it and it came back as 40% purity. So it is var but I guess not very pure. The lab results were not available when I ordered