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    Could I realistically get a script for TRT

    24 years old, testosterone 263ng/dL, LH 1.8 U/L, FSH 1.9 U/L, E2 24pg/mL. This is after 10 months on steroids , I don't know the LH and FSH before levels, but testosterone was 299.

    Good - normal morning erections, yet no libido. Losing muscle mass and strength, albeit slowly.

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    Maybe if you get real lucky...
    But you'll probably just get jerked around for a long time before that, if you succeed at all.

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    Or you could just give us a call if you'd rather not get jerked around

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    Quote Originally Posted by Low Testosterone View Post
    Or you could just give us a call if you'd rather not get jerked around
    Thanks, but I'm not in the US.
    I already sent emails to doctors in my country. I know that guys here get scripts for omnadren , aromasin , dostinex etc. Just need to find a doctor who does that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfarre View Post
    24 years old, testosterone 263ng/dL, LH 1.8 U/L, FSH 1.9 U/L, E2 24pg/mL. This is after 10 months on steroids , I don't know the LH and FSH before levels, but testosterone was 299.

    Good - normal morning erections, yet no libido. Losing muscle mass and strength, albeit slowly.
    10 months on steroids? Was this due to low t and self medicating or an extended long cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfarre View Post
    24 years old, testosterone 263ng/dL, LH 1.8 U/L, FSH 1.9 U/L, E2 24pg/mL. This is after 10 months on steroids , I don't know the LH and FSH before levels, but testosterone was 299.

    Good - normal morning erections, yet no libido. Losing muscle mass and strength, albeit slowly.
    Wow, I'm ALMOST surprised that you now have lot T. How long have you been OFF cycle now? Did you do a power PCT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPete33 View Post
    Wow, I'm ALMOST surprised that you now have lot T. How long have you been OFF cycle now? Did you do a power PCT?
    Why are you surprised? We live in a very estrogenic world nowadays coupled with almost a year of being shut down, these endocrine systems don't just jump back online, if ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beethoven View Post
    10 months on steroids? Was this due to low t and self medicating or an extended long cycle?
    Just two cycles and cruise in between.
    Last edited by dfarre; 05-28-2015 at 10:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPete33 View Post
    Wow, I'm ALMOST surprised that you now have lot T. How long have you been OFF cycle now? Did you do a power PCT?
    Just 30 points lower, maybe if I went earlier in the morning it would be the same. ~6 weeks. I don't know what is power PCT, but I ate a lot more Clomid and did more hcg than should be done after a normal cycle.

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    Why are you surprised? We live in a very estrogenic world nowadays coupled with almost a year of being shut down, these endocrine systems don't just jump back online, if ever
    Except my estrogen is normal. In the reference range it should be sub 56, I have 24.

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    Get some more novadex and clomid and do another proper pct. sounds like you were taking shit and hope it's correct. Because you were on for 10 months do novadex 40 40 20 20 20 20. Clomid 75 50 50 50 50 50. Normal pct is 4 weeks, I would run 6. Then 6 weeks after do bloods again

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie made View Post
    Get some more novadex and clomid and do another proper pct. sounds like you were taking shit and hope it's correct. Because you were on for 10 months do novadex 40 40 20 20 20 20. Clomid 75 50 50 50 50 50. Normal pct is 4 weeks, I would run 6. Then 6 weeks after do bloods again
    I did 100 100 50 50 50 Clomid, 40 40 40 20 20 tamox, and hcg 250iu ed for several weeks while still on.
    It won't be higher than 300 anyway. I'm already losing muscle mass, I will be back where I was pr*********** after those 6 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfarre View Post
    Just 30 points lower, maybe if I went earlier in the morning it would be the same. ~6 weeks. I don't know what is power PCT, but I ate a lot more Clomid and did more hcg than should be done after a normal cycle.



    Except my estrogen is normal. In the reference range it should be sub 56, I have 24.
    thats not the point, your estrogen HAS to be low because of your T level, remember the dominant source of E2 in males is conversion from testosterone , if theres not much testosterone in the blood, subsequently your E2 will be low normal too

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    If you're only 6 weeks post cycle then I would do another PCT as suggested above and do bloods again 6 weeks later as recommended above. You never should have cycled like that esp at only 24. You're better off trying to recover than going on TRT

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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPete33 View Post
    If you're only 6 weeks post cycle then I would do another PCT as suggested above and do bloods again 6 weeks later as recommended above. You never should have cycled like that esp at only 24. You're better off trying to recover than going on TRT
    I agree, 6 weeks is nothing, try 16 weeks, and then make a decision

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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPete33 View Post
    If you're only 6 weeks post cycle then I would do another PCT as suggested above and do bloods again 6 weeks later as recommended above. You never should have cycled like that esp at only 24. You're better off trying to recover than going on TRT
    6 weeks after PCT. If I did the bloods 6 weeks after cycle it would mean 1 week post Clomid and test would still be through the roof.

    It's just 30 ng/dL I could supposedly recover, is it really that big of a difference.
    I won't be able to gain anything anyway, I'm already losing, I lost 10 reps off 225lbs bench press, did 18 at 187lbs bodyweight, now I barely could do 8 at 175lbs, that is just 3 reps more than what I did before steroids .

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    Quote Originally Posted by booku View Post
    thats not the point, your estrogen HAS to be low because of your T level, remember the dominant source of E2 in males is conversion from testosterone, if theres not much testosterone in the blood, subsequently your E2 will be low normal too
    It isn't that simple. You can have high E2 and low test if you are converting an abnormally high amount of test to estrogen.

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