Self administering TRT

**TheTaxMan** · 12-23-2015, 04:17 AM

I havent fully decided on this but im considering self TRT.

Never had my natty levels tested much but unless im on cycle my test feels pretty low, im not lethargic or anything but dont feel my sex drive warrants that of a man in his 20s.

Besides im coming off a big cycle and cant be arsed with the up and down of PCT and the loss of libido etc. And i see an advantage of keeping gains and saving PCT time means you can start your next cycle sooner.

But like i say i aint made my mind up.

Main question i want to ask is what a sensible dose would be and what ester should i use? How frequent should i inject it?

I know bloods determin the dose but whats a safe dose that is on the high side that i can enjoy without stressing my body? After time i will get bloods done and adjust as i go but would like some indication of what to run? 200mg enth every week? 150mg every week? Or cyp is better or prop?

Id prefer to pin as infrequent as possible.

What about an AI and HCG useage? Is it necessary?

Any input, advice and suggestions welcome

**marcus300** · 12-23-2015, 06:48 AM

That's no way the best way forward in any means what so ever.

You cant go on TRT all because your feel you may have low T, the reason why you feel that you have is because you are use to be on cycle and having higher test levels you don't know what normal is.

You need to do a pct and recover your natural test levels then get blood work, how can you cycle and never get your bloods done, you could be at a very dangerous levels in many areas and you know nothing about it, you may have good T levels and your going to go on TRT and end up being on TRT for life, and do you really know what this means to a guy in his 20's.

The right thing to do is come off your cycle, do an aggressive PCT and after 8-10 weeks when pct ends get blood work done and see what your levels are, its not just about your T levels either.

**Simon1972** · 12-23-2015, 06:56 AM

Agreed. Be smart about this.You of all people should know blood work is the cornerstone of any decision .Don't guess.

If you are truly low T. Get it prescribed. Otherwise, sort your body out.

**Mr.BB** · 12-23-2015, 06:57 AM

^^^ What Marcus said x2

**TheTaxMan** · 12-23-2015, 08:19 AM

Cheers fellas, had i done this i would always have the lingering question of would/should/could i have recovered from my long cycle.

I have to give my body a chance, rather than just guess or assume im not going to recover.

Cheers for shaking my brains

**kelkel** · 12-23-2015, 11:15 AM

Use the first set of BW in the Finding A Doc Sticky thread if at all possible.

**TheTaxMan** · 12-23-2015, 01:05 PM

Sweet il copy and get those printed when i go to the docs, going to go 6 weeks after PCT which in total is around 16 weeks time.

Thanks for the advice

**< <Samson> >** · 12-23-2015, 01:10 PM

Fvck the Doc - well, this is what I say & live by

Build some solid research, get your own BW & go from there.

**ghettoboyd** · 12-23-2015, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by TheTaxMan

I havent fully decided on this but im considering self TRT.

Never had my natty levels tested much but unless im on cycle my test feels pretty low, im not lethargic or anything but dont feel my sex drive warrants that of a man in his 20s.

Besides im coming off a big cycle and cant be arsed with the up and down of PCT and the loss of libido etc. And i see an advantage of keeping gains and saving PCT time means you can start your next cycle sooner.

But like i say i aint made my mind up.

Main question i want to ask is what a sensible dose would be and what ester should i use? How frequent should i inject it?

I know bloods determin the dose but whats a safe dose that is on the high side that i can enjoy without stressing my body? After time i will get bloods done and adjust as i go but would like some indication of what to run? 200mg enth every week? 150mg every week? Or cyp is better or prop?

Id prefer to pin as infrequent as possible.

What about an AI and HCG useage? Is it necessary?

Any input, advice and suggestions welcome

please understand that if you do this and im pretty shure your going too that the longer you are "on" the less and less gains you will get from it and you will be tempted to use more and more to see even the most modest results..good luck whatever you decide..

**< <Samson> >** · 12-23-2015, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by ghettoboyd

please understand that if you do this and im pretty shure your going too that the longer you are "on" the less and less gains you will get from it and you will be tempted to use more and more to see even the most modest results..good luck whatever you decide..

Truth

After almost 3 years of heavy use I forced myself to pull back to semi true TRT dose of about 300mg of test a week.

It's an aquired taste that's for sure - I do way more shit than any average person to keep myself healthy since I load up on the sauce.

**TheTaxMan** · 12-23-2015, 05:23 PM

Nah Ghetto, im going to run an aggressive PCT and take it from there buddy

I know i didnt take advice on my cycle extension but i feel i did have some points that were valid, as for this thought process on self TRT was OTT.

Your probably aware im a person who will just go all out even when risks, as ive done in my current cycle extension but i do eventualy see sense,

I have to remember im still young, theres no need to rush, my goal is to drop 5% bodyfat and gain muscle which is more than achievable without getting way out of hand. Its not as though im 50 and time is runing out.

I guess im really enjoying life atm, im settled, back into the lifestyle i love and my body is going through nice changes, its in my nature to want more and quicker but i know taking a break and going through life normal and without trt is the best option.

I should probably start practicing what i preach on here, im just crazy tho

But really, im going to come off in 4 weeks and try to recover natural. Hopefully it aint too rough.

Cheers!

**kelkel** · 12-23-2015, 08:52 PM

The longer you can wait after pct for BW the better, TaxMan. It gives your body more time to fine homeostasis.

**reporich** · 12-23-2015, 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

Fvck the Doc - well, this is what I say & live by

Build some solid research, get your own BW & go from there.

Great advice, NOT!

**< <Samson> >** · 12-24-2015, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by reporich

Great advice, NOT!

Then do better

**Simon1972** · 12-24-2015, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

Then do better

Go to a dr- get trt prescribed.

there, thats better....how can using ugls for life ever be better than prescribed pharma gear?

**< <Samson> >** · 12-24-2015, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by Simon1972

Go to a dr- get trt prescribed.

there, thats better....how can using ugls for life ever be better than prescribed pharma gear?

To many people this is impossible as having affordable quality health care

Do I wish it was possible for me - sure

Is it going to happen - no(unless I win the lottery)

To each is own

And, yes - you can get your own HG quality test for TRT