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    Critique my Protocol

    Hello All,

    So my second labs should be coming back (first one read 399 total test) and im looking to start a trt program since im 31 and levels are low...

    Can members critique my two protocol and let me know which one would be better? Thanks members!


    Option 1)

    Monday AM .5ml of Test C grapeseed

    Monday AM 500iu HCG w/Bac Water

    Tuesday AM .25mg Adex (maybe .5mg)

    Thursday PM .5ml of Test C grapeseed

    Thursday PM 500iu HCG w/Bac Water

    Friday PM .25mg Adex (maybe .5mg)

    Or

    Option 2)

    Sunday AM 500iu HCG w/Bac Water

    Monday AM .5mg of Test C grapeseed

    Tuesday AM .25mg Adex (maybe .5mg)

    Wednesday PM 500iu HCG w/Bac Water

    Thursday PM .5ml of Test C grapeseed

    Friday PM .25mg Adex (maybe .5mg )

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    Question! Did you put these two protocols together or a TRT specialist did?
    The reason for my question is because I am on TRT under the supervision of a specialized clinic.
    The dosage of my TRT is similar to option 1 but the timing is different.
    What I was told that the Adex should be taken 24 hours after your shot. The ratio is, for each 100mg of test cyp, you take 1mg of Adex

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charger Hemi View Post
    Question! Did you put these two protocols together or a TRT specialist did?
    The reason for my question is because I am on TRT under the supervision of a specialized clinic.
    The dosage of my TRT is similar to option 1 but the timing is different.
    What I was told that the Adex should be taken 24 hours after your shot. The ratio is, for each 100mg of test cyp, you take 1mg of Adex
    I actually put it together myself with research. i didnt know that 100mg of test c needs 1mg of adex, seems a bit high and could crash my e2? could anyone else chime in on this... i thought .25-.5 would handle e2 graciously.

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    Well, you will be diving the dosage into 2. So you will take 0.5mg 24 hours after the 1st shot and another 0.5mg 24 hours after your 2nd shot.
    My E2 before the therapy was 29 and after 8 weeks, it became 26. So it really didn't crash it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charger Hemi View Post
    Well, you will be diving the dosage into 2. So you will take 0.5mg 24 hours after the 1st shot and another 0.5mg 24 hours after your 2nd shot.
    My E2 before the therapy was 29 and after 8 weeks, it became 26. So it really didn't crash it.

    those are pretty good numbers... i guess bloodwork will tell...

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    labs came back and my test is low 287 range 348 - 1197

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keep_It_Moving View Post
    I actually put it together myself with research. i didnt know that 100mg of test c needs 1mg of adex, seems a bit high and could crash my e2? could anyone else chime in on this... i thought .25-.5 would handle e2 graciously.
    You always start low with ana, 1mg can easily crash E2 or do absolutely nothing, bloods are the way to tell how you respond to AI.

    Test C peaks in about 24h on average, so it is reasonable to schedule adx post-pin day. Go for 0.25, if not enough, 0.5, if still inadequate, move to EOD.

    Quote Originally Posted by Keep_It_Moving View Post
    labs came back and my test is low 287 range 348 - 1197
    That's quite a "generous" range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keep_It_Moving View Post
    Option 2)

    Sunday AM 500iu HCG w/Bac Water

    Monday AM .5mg of Test C grapeseed

    Tuesday AM .25mg Adex (maybe .5mg)

    Wednesday PM 500iu HCG w/Bac Water

    Thursday PM .5ml of Test C grapeseed

    Friday PM .25mg Adex (maybe .5mg )
    whats the strength of the 0.5ml testosterone ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon1972 View Post
    whats the strength of the 0.5ml testosterone?
    100mg of test

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    I think you need to double that to bring your test to the upper mid range.
    Last edited by Charger Hemi; 06-08-2016 at 09:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keep_It_Moving View Post
    100mg of test
    sounds like a good starting dose for sure- i'm using 150mg a week, you are at 100mg a week.

    you should change up your days to suit your lifestyle, if you are a mon-fri office worker like me, pin tuesday Pm and sat AM.

    Also consider dropping the AI to 1/4 tab instead - one day after pinning.

    Best to start low, and adjust only one variable until you get a stable reading.

    i didn't use an AI until 6 months of bloodwork showed excessive E levels.

    Id start with T and HCG first as written and add the AI only after blood work shows it too high. You may not convert so not need it- its cheaper and easier to do it that way.

    Dont guess it, test it.

    Good luck.

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