IMT New Network very impressed

I have been on TRT for almost a year via my endo. She was very green and I had to convince her to put me on testosterone despite 3 bloodwork tests at under 250 total T. She put me on gel which I was allergic to so she agreed to let me do Test Cyp shots. She told me to do 100 mg week. After much trial and error I would up on 60 mg twice a week shots. In the last year I lost a good of mount of fat and gained muscle but worked out hard as well. I used research adex because endo wouldn't give me script. She also would put me on HCG despite ball shrinkage. I had a little estrogen issue and had a little trouble managing due to the inconsistency liquid adex. Bottoms line I got fed up and emailed Todd. I was super impressed wth this guy. So responsive, and so informative. Within less than a week I had the goods at my door. Had a virtual conaultation with a good doc that understands the game. Todd doesn't do this for the money alone for sure. He is always wanting to know how I am doing. Plan to add to this post once I am on the hcg and pharma adex for a few weeks to compare.

Thank you!

Please stick around and participate, and welcome to the forum!

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I have been on TRT for almost a year via my endo. She was very green and I had to convince her to put me on testosterone despite 3 bloodwork tests at under 250 total T. She put me on gel which I was allergic to so she agreed to let me do Test Cyp shots. She told me to do 100 mg week. After much trial and error I would up on 60 mg twice a week shots. In the last year I lost a good of mount of fat and gained muscle but worked out hard as well. I used research adex because endo wouldn't give me script. She also would put me on HCG despite ball shrinkage. I had a little estrogen issue and had a little trouble managing due to the inconsistency liquid adex. Bottoms line I got fed up and emailed Todd. I was super impressed wth this guy. So responsive, and so informative. Within less than a week I had the goods at my door. Had a virtual conaultation with a good doc that understands the game. Todd doesn't do this for the money alone for sure. He is always wanting to know how I am doing. Plan to add to this post once I am on the hcg and pharma adex for a few weeks to compare.

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I don't know who Todd is but it's good to find someone with knowledge and who is generous with it.

By the way, there are posts you can find here on Aromasin that are worth looking into. Although useful, Adex is not the final word. Far from it. You can get Exemestane/Aromasin and hCG overseas very cheaply without a script - all legit. Common knowledge

No reason to use Aromasin.

HCG from over seas? Why on earth would someone do that?

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No reason to use Aromasin.

HCG from over seas? Why on earth would someone do that?

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I notice that you are the new Site Sponsor and I would imagine that you have a great deal of knowledge about the subjects being discussed on your site. I (and I'm sure others) would like to benefit from that knowledge in regards to your two comments above.

Can you qualify the first for us? Can you also elaborate on the reasoning for your rhetorical questions regarding hCG?

So OP makes an awesome thread about us, thank you very much btw.

He explains he is now on pharmacy grade HCG and anastrozole, then you suggest getting HCG and anastrozole over seas?

Why would he risk importing a substance, that is a schedule III controlled substance in a lot of states now, when he has a prescription for it?

Why would he risk getting chinese knock off or possibly garbage hucog from over seas when he has a prescription?

Am I in the HRT forum or no? To save a few bucks?

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So OP makes an awesome thread about us, thank you very much btw.

He explains he is now on pharmacy grade HCG and anastrozole, then you suggest getting HCG and anastrozole over seas?

Why would he risk importing a substance, that is a schedule III controlled substance in a lot of states now, when he has a prescription for it?

Why would he risk getting chinese knock off or possibly garbage hucog from over seas when he has a prescription?

Am I in the HRT forum or no? To save a few bucks?

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I get it and I agree. No amount of savings is worth putting crap into your body.

I've been getting my hCG and Exemestane for several years from Indian pharmacies that supply our own pharmacies here in the USA. These particular pharmacies have FDA inspectors on site to oversee manufacturing since they do supply US pharma. Although the FDA doesn't win any awards for the work they do, this still gives me peace of mind regarding the quality of the medications I am getting.

And the savings is substantial as anyone knows, who has extensively researched this and the above information - as I have.

P.S. I didn't suggest he order anastrozole. I suggested Aromasin. I guess that was your typo.

No wasn't my typo just don't think there is a need for it.

The savings aren't that much, and you also have to worry about internationally importing a schedule III controlled substance.

So no its definitely not worth it, unless you can't afford a good service like ours.

BTW chinese knock offs make it in to US pharmacies, so if you don't think it can happen in a pharmacy in less well regulated places your mistaken.

In post #4 above you said, No need to use Aromasin. I'd still like to understand why you advised the OP this.

Its stronger than anastrozole and more expensive, why would we need anything stronger than that?

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Its stronger than anastrozole and more expensive, why would we need anything stronger than that?

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When I first joined this forum a few years ago, I was surprised at the habit of several posters' (who seem not to be here anymore) of stating their opinions as if they were fact; not offering simple scientific proof to back up their statements. I was critical of them for this then and I continue to be critical of this now - because it still goes on. Your statement above illustrates this.

As a retired teacher of the Earth and environmental sciences for thirty years - who has presented research papers at various symposiums over the years - I believe I can differentiate between the two. I took pride in my job, part of which was teaching my students to ask a few simple questions about what they heard in my class and in their other classes. Is this true? And, Where are the facts to back this up? Just because statements were coming out of the mouths of teachers - or other so called authorities - didn't mean they were true.

In my opinion anyone on this forum who makes statements should, at the very least, state if they are opinions. If they do not, they are doing a tremendous disservice to the men and women here and wasting a tremendous amount of time. I've read countless posts of opinions disguised as facts. And I've read countless questions on these posts that could have been avoided if the original poster just simply said in the beginning, "In my opinion" - or stated the data to back them up. Other expressions that have been used for clarification have been, "From my experience", "To my knowledge", "It's my understanding". Time wasters and misinformation in not what we need here.

In my view - especially being a site sponsor, whether you are a medical professional or self taught like many of us here - I feel you have a double responsibility - and an obligation - to back up your statements with facts. (And answering a question with another question seldom has any value. In my experience, it's an attempt at intimidation by people who don't have the knowledge for an answer. And it exhibits a contempt for the person asking the question. Naked superiority.) No knowledgeable poster on this forum gained credibility and respect overnight. Not one.

Do you have a question for me? I just answered this in another thread in detail so no I did not go into detail here:

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Well if someone has estrogen symptoms I personally think its better to implement a small amount of anastrozole before testing. Having E symptoms and getting a lab test with high E2 doesn't help much. We already knew that.

So if you take a small dose and symptoms get better, or gone altogether, now you can get labs and use them to fine tune. Now we are getting info we didn't already know. Good labs are better than bad labs they give you something to shoot for.

Exemestane is somewhat stronger the anastrozole, not by much but it can penetrate dense lipid cells better than anastrozole, stopping conversion in new places. Fermara is the strongest.

I am not sure whether suicidal AI is better or worse for you. The point is if you don't need something that strong it doesn't matter. No such thing as rebound and if there is its positive.

I know it sounds great on paper, 2 times per week will keep them from swinging as much. But I think we may need some swing. Just not something crazy like a 10 week injection schedule of course.

A lot of guys do better this way. It is also easier to dose your AI just one time when it is needed, near the peak. Thats when E2 is made, not on the way down. Hope that makes sense.

I guess its possible some type of receptor affinity is related to what we see clinically, that increasing T levels then letting them fall a bit lets the receptors up reg a little. To be honest I have no idea when it gets that deep. I just know what I see.

Also labs are going to come in higher in the trough on 100mg 2 times per than they will on 200 mg per week. Or 150 75 however you slice it.

Then there are some guys that swear by that injection schedule, 2 times a week. Let me be clear I am never opposed to a way of timing your schedule within reason, I have been doing this long enough to know it boils down to what works best for you. Getting there is a process of elimination and having someone help you through that can be invaluable.

I have had many guys do twice a week for a year and are now back on once every 5 day or 7 day and feel better. I wish I had the answer. Some stick with twice a week for good.

The most successful program I have seen though is the 5 day, with once per 5 day HCG dosing and once per 5 day anastrozole dosing. If need just 0.25mg should do it with 100mg of T.

Hope this makes sense its been a long day :)

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Listen, I have been around the boards a long time, from the looks of your account a lot longer than you. So thanks for telling me how they work lol.

Just FYI its not my job to do the research, I have done it all about 100 times. Its my job to point you in the right direction.

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Listen, I have been around the boards a long time, from the looks of your account a lot longer than you. So thanks for telling me how they work lol.

Just FYI its not my job to do the research, I have done it all about 100 times. Its my job to point you in the right direction.

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Is that it? Are we to understand that you are not willing to do the work that countless members of this forum have kindly done by posting links, citing articles, attaching graphs to make it easier for us to understand things? The ones who have gone that extra mile and then some. The selfless work they have done has always been an inspiration and encouragement to me. Are you saying that you have limits to how much you contribute here? I can't imagine what would make a person feel so privileged.

Your response is very disappointing. And I don't think it represents who you really are and how you really feel.

I think you are better than this.

Man you are really reaching now.

I don't know where you have been but I have posted many links graphs etc. I didn't think I needed to when we are talking about something that is common knowledge in the BB world.

FYI I have a combined 75,000 posts on the boards and have written threads that have gotten well over 300k views, I am sorry but I do not need to explain myself to you.

You let me know what part of what I said is confusing, I will be more than happy to see if I can clarify.

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Man you are really reaching now.

I don't know where you have been but I have posted many links graphs etc. I didn't think I needed to when we are talking about something that is common knowledge in the BB world.

FYI I have a combined 75,000 posts on the boards and have written threads that have gotten well over 300k views, I am sorry but I do not need to explain myself to you.

You let me know what part of what I said is confusing, I will be more than happy to see if I can clarify.

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All I can see about your past is that you joined this forum in June of 2016. But I'm willing to take your statements above as true.

I've said all I needed to above. It's your choice whether or not to see value in my comments. However I'm glad I had the opportunity to get to know something about your background and your character and what can be expected of you in the future. I'll say no more.

I totally agree, it is the readers choice to either take value in a poster's comments.

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I totally agree, it is the readers choice to either take value in a poster's comments.

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I've been looking back on some of your previous posts and I've come to see how much you have contributed and how valuable your comments have been. I believe you deserve an apology from me for implying you put limits on how much you wish to help others. Consider it given.

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I've been looking back on some of your previous posts and I've come to see how much you have contributed and how valuable your comments have been. I believe you deserve an apology from me for implying you put limits on how much you wish to help others. Consider it given.

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Very nice 2Sox. And completely "in-character" for you!

Back to the topic. I have taken two injections of the hcg at this point and so far I feel fantastic. My mood, energy and sexual function seem to be much improved over just T alone. I reduced my T to 100mg week(2x50mg) due to the hcg. Biggest improvement with hcg is my mood. I was very short tempered on test alone. I haven't noticed any more E issues so far but will keep you posted. Actually with the lowered T and hcg it feels much better E wise,which I used to start to feel after a few days without anastrozole.

Just a note on IMT Todd, the guy is legit. He responds to emails instantly and pleasantly. I am sure he gets bombarded nonstop and is very busy but he never makes you feel that way or you have a stupid question. I complain about everyone but he has my top rating in customer service. Everyone has slightly different opinions on trt. You have to experiment until you find what works for you.

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I've been looking back on some of your previous posts and I've come to see how much you have contributed and how valuable your comments have been. I believe you deserve an apology from me for implying you put limits on how much you wish to help others. Consider it given.

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Same here brother, I should have rested better just been extremely busy lately and sometimes I am in a hurry and don't mean to be.

Thank you for the apology and I also apologize for my brashness.

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Very nice 2Sox. And completely "in-character" for you!

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Thanks for your comment, Kel. It's appreciated.

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Back to the topic. I have taken two injections of the hcg at this point and so far I feel fantastic. My mood, energy and sexual function seem to be much improved over just T alone. I reduced my T to 100mg week(2x50mg) due to the hcg. Biggest improvement with hcg is my mood. I was very short tempered on test alone. I haven't noticed any more E issues so far but will keep you posted. Actually with the lowered T and hcg it feels much better E wise,which I used to start to feel after a few days without anastrozole.

Just a note on IMT Todd, the guy is legit. He responds to emails instantly and pleasantly. I am sure he gets bombarded nonstop and is very busy but he never makes you feel that way or you have a stupid question. I complain about everyone but he has my top rating in customer service. Everyone has slightly different opinions on trt. You have to experiment until you find what works for you.

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I love HCG too, I find myself making excuses to take it more often :)

Right now I am totally in fucking love with hcg! I am a new man as compared to test alone. Just hoping it doesn't wear off. Both mood and libido/ function are vastly improved. Honestly I was a dick and a hot head on test alone. Wife has verified this numerous times! Feel much better now. She is happy as well.

3 weeks later I still like hcg but some of that initial euphoria has worn off. I have been working with dosage frequency as well. I take my t every 3.5 days Wed night Sunday morning. So I have been taking the hcg 250 IU tues/wed morning and Friday/ Saturday morning up from just 2 x 250 a week. Think I am noticing a little elevated E but giving it a chance. Now with the 4x 250 a week I wil see how it goes to determine if I need more than .25 mg arimidex 2x/wk.