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    advanced trt question for those with experience/knowledge

    i was diagnosed with low T (~250 serum, i forgot the free) about 3 years ago and have been on trt since. my symptoms at the time were low energy, funky mood. my libido was great and muscle mass well... let's just say it's never enough (but certainly not a problem by normal standards).

    over the years, i've experimented with various protocols from about 50-120 mg test cyp 2x/week and corresponding hcg and anastrozole. i've zero'ed in on 100 mg test cyp 2x/week, no anastrozole and no hcg. i've forgotten the numbers except for serum around 1200 (last off-cycle bw was about a year ago), but according to my urologist, i'm fine . i know, i know, i should get the numbers and will get new bw in the next few weeks.

    here's the question. my wife's and my libido are out of whack - mine's much higher than hers. this causes some tension in the bedroom and i'm wondering what others experience is with different levels of test (free, presumably) and the 4 main symptom areas: libido, energy, mood, muscle mass.

    i really don't want to change anything except my libido, but realize the body is a complex system. i'm thinking of playing around with my levels again to see if i can find a sweeter spot. so... the questions:

    1. how long does it take to 'feel' the difference in a change in serum/free test level?

    2. i expect e2 to play a role in all this somehow, and will report e2 after my next bw. that being said, will adding anastrozole help with libido and not affect the other symptom areas?

    3. is there some other trick/approach i should consider?

    thanks in advance!

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    Why not just get her tested??

    How old is she? We have some cool programs for females just FYI.

    Either way she may have a hormonal imbalance just like you, ESPECIALLY if she took birth control for a while.
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    ^^^I agree.

    When I started TRT, my wife was in the middle of menopause - and she's 10 years younger than I. You can imagine the results: My libido was increasing while hers was going in the other direction. The short story: She began HRT and the rest is a happy history.
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    Bart there is nothing wrong with you that needs fixing or adjusting, I agree with the above, its your wife that needs some attentions. I know its hard to get the wife to join in, I am still working on mine keep trying...
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    Hrt for women is more easily achieved , Dr's are throwing themselves at helping them so you'll find lots of Dr's offering bihrt programmes.
    And because of the supply, the prices are cheaper too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IncreaseMyT View Post
    Why not just get her tested??

    How old is she? We have some cool programs for females just FYI.

    Either way she may have a hormonal imbalance just like you, ESPECIALLY if she took birth control for a while.
    My wife may be in. This group.
    She took birth control pills (no idea what) from 16 yrs old to about 30. She is booked to see a specialist. But I would love to have my own insight on what to look for ?
    Tips, ideas ?

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    The problem is unfortunately most "specialists" don't know their A from a hole in the ground

    See with women very few people know if there is a hormone dysfunction you have to supplement all 3 major sex hormones:

    Progesterone
    Testosterone
    Estrogen

    See what happens is they go to the doctor and test low for one of those hormones, then the doc gives them script for that hormone, simple right?

    BIG problem, any one of the 3 hormones suppress the other 2. So supplementing just one will give her dominance in that hormone.

    For instance estrogen. If they supplement just that they will have estrogen dominance, or feel like they are getting ready to start their period all the time.

    This is because unlike men, women's hormones fluctuate quite a bit. T stays roughly the same, estrogen climbs for the first 14 or so days of the 28 day cycle, then it plummets and progesterone skyrockets and stimulates the cervix to menstruate.

    So if you do not account for these swings and all 3 hormones with the protocol most likely will be unsuccessful long term.

    Women, unlike men, are not willing to put up with ANY side effects. So their protocol has to be next to perfect. Men will put up with sides to get results, minimal ones like water retention little acne.....women? Not a chance.

    I have worked with about 500 women over the last 4 years and 3 OBGYN mostly in KC area, I developed a program a step above the wiley protocol and it has been extremely successful over the last 4 years.

    It was so successful two of the female doctors tested and started and still on it today.

    Once they get done messing around, give us a call
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    Under what business name did you treat those 500 women if you don't mind me asking?

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    They did a great job with it, the only part where our program differs is we do not believe high dose is necessary, but the concept of balancing all 3 (not two like wiley) is the key to a healthy successful long term HRT program for females.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon1972 View Post
    Under what business name did you treat those 500 women if you don't mind me asking?
    Well I basically had initiated a agreement 3 very well known clinics that do restorative procedures like botox etc and we implemented the program in practice.

    Thats where most came from, the rest are wives/girlfriends/family members of our clients.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IncreaseMyT View Post
    Well I basically had initiated a agreement 3 very well known clinics that do restorative procedures like botox etc and we implemented the program in practice.

    Thats where most came from, the rest are wives/girlfriends/family members of our clients.
    Nice work, agree with the notion of all 3 being optimised.
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