Blood draw & last injection timing?

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[Scorpion0922]

Do you need the test to reflect low?

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[krugerr]

I need test to reflect if what I'm injecting is optimal

Them yes. Inject after the test. You're wanting to test what your trough levels are.

What test are you injecting? Whats the protocol?

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[krugerr]

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Gotcha. If it was something like TU (Nebido) you'd test before the next injection to check your trough levels are not too low.
Id think in this situation, that you'd still want a pre-injection test just to check what your "lowest" levels are on a 3.5D protocol is.

Simple math says that you're injecting more frequently than the T/2, so although it may be minimal, you are going to be steadily increasing the blood levels over time.

[krugerr]

Your protocol looks something like this, this only shows the theoretical amount of injected testosterone in your system.
Ive modelled it over 20 weeks, and as you can see, its still slowly climbing, because you're injecting too frequently. I assumed a half life of 10 days for the TE, which again, is a "best guess" depending upon the person.

Because of this, you'll probably find your blood levels are climbing consistently, and will continue to do so forever. Albeit marginally after around 35 weeks.
You might find at this point your 'steady state' is too high.

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[krugerr]

Cool... thanks for the replies. I was asuming half life to be of ~7 days and if it was the case I felt like my absorbtion rate should be somewhat evened out by now. Hope to see numbers too high indicating the need of lowering the dose, and thus in return making the best with the e2 levels.

While on the same page, youre on testosterone nebido, and I cant wrap my head around half lifes of it, I know nebido is auspended in castor oil and other non nebido test-u usually have a different oil carrier, do you believe carrier oil has weight to relation of the half life of test-u ?

And how could be a better way to do my first test-u shot of 1000mg 4ml? Should I let my test levels decline over span of few weeks and then hit it, or just continue on straight from my current protocol without any time gaps with test-u?

Thanks

Test E is around 10 days, depending who you ask. I think its a good average, but it does depend on the absorption rate of the individual. My graph was just a visual "guess" at how I suspect your protocol is building.

The halflife of Nebido is hotly debated, and we've covered this inside out and backwards in my TRT thread, and I think we still have no answer. I think its clear that the half life is much shorter than the injection protocol. I think that you're right, and the volume and suspension may have something to do with effecting the absorption rate. For example, I just injected 1g last week, and 4 days later my levels werent spiking like a 1g shot of TE or TP would have me.

If I recall you're trying to locate some TU, but not on prescription? Id suggest starting straight on from your current protocol. You'll need to get some regular blood tests to follow how you're peaking and troughing. As I think its evident that some of us respond very differently, with people like BiB and Marcus having excellent trough levels on even 10-14 weeks, and people like myself are back to the starting point at 8 weeks.
Granted, I had no booster shot.

My thoughts anyway brother. Happy to comment and help where I can. Just take my comments for what they are, a non-expert opinion. If you want to know more, there are a lot of studies and data linked in my TRT thread on Nebido injection protocols.

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[krugerr]

Awesome.
I was in and out of your thread, and just need to read trough all again to synthesize it all better. Yes, I am planing getting non prescription test-u and go away from e3.5d routine to more something like once every 2-3 months. Even once a month would be more ideal as alot of travelling are in the horizon for me. I can only guess that 12 months from now I will likelly just hire a professional trainer coach nutritionist that has good connections to some clinics and docs that will have me rechecked ground-up and put me on a proper nebido prescriptions but till the time comes I must do what I can to get there at a "good speed".

I dont recall reading you trying 1g test at once injection, how did it go on the chart compared to your nebido?

Apologies I meant, that 1g of Nebido moved my levels from ~200 to ~273 ng/dl. If i had done 1g enanthate, you'd bet your bottom dollar it would have been higher than that. Hence I agree with you regarding the absorption.