Need help.

**JuliusPleaser** · 09-14-2018, 06:48 PM

Been off stuff for over a month; doing a heavy PCT to get my wife pregnant. I figured I would try dieting hard and aggressively to lose some fat, which I have obtained. I lost about 9lbs in a few days. I went from 224 to 215.

Thing is, I feel like total shit. I have no hunger, so I can cut calls by 1000 deficit; my gym performance has gone to shit however; I don't mean motivation or intensity, but strength.

Despite being low cals and doing refeeds (following Ultimate Diet 2.0), I feel like being low-T and high female hormones in my body, its not wise to try to cut at this time.

I seems like my abdominal fat, back fat, trouble areas are just not going anywhere. It also seems I'm losing some muscle, but that could just be fat skin...

Should I just forget all this for now, bulk up being "natty" and just cut later...?

What do you all think

**almostgone** · 09-14-2018, 11:29 PM

Julius are you still taking everything that you posted a couple of weeks ago?

https://forums.steroid.com/hormone-r...ed-advice.html

**JuliusPleaser** · 09-15-2018, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by almostgone

Julius are you still taking everything that you posted a couple of weeks ago?

https://forums.steroid.com/hormone-r...ed-advice.html

Yes I am.

I just got my bloodwork done so results should come in Monday.

Then I'm going for another sperm analysis at some point.

**Youthful55guy** · 09-15-2018, 01:53 PM

Excessive caloric deficit and over exercising are well documented to lower gonadotropin production, hence endogenous T production/fertility. You lost 9 pounds in a few days??? I'd definitely call that extreme.

**JuliusPleaser** · 09-15-2018, 03:54 PM

Yes. I figured it was mostly water weight; now I am floating around 215-217 on average daily. Its only been about 17 days of dieting.

My point is, should I not be dieting at all at this time, until I have higher T-levels? I think you alluded to that being the case?

Thing is, I won't have higher T levels any time soon, and even if I get my wife pregnant, they will be low.

When I got her preg last time, my T levels were 260

**waltr64** · 09-16-2018, 12:59 AM

If you are trying to have a little one try adding Proviron to your PCT. It is used in most of the world for fertility. Over time it can help increase your natural T production as well.

**i_SLAM_cougars** · 09-16-2018, 05:56 AM

Mesterolone is one of, if not the least suppressive AAS out there, but it is still suppressive. Never heard of using it to increase natural production

**JuliusPleaser** · 09-16-2018, 07:36 AM

well my real question here isn't how to naturally increase T at this point, but if it is wise to go in any deficit right now...being that, to my knowledge, high estrogen levels INCREASE fat; so even if I did go into a deficit, I'm fighting a losing battle, while probably losing more muscle too?

**Youthful55guy** · 09-16-2018, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by waltr64

If you are trying to have a little one try adding Proviron to your PCT. It is used in most of the world for fertility. Over time it can help increase your natural T production as well.

I've read that it's been used in situations like this. However, I discount anecdotal accounts that it increases T. It does suppress SHBG, and that should shift more of the T into free T, but I suspect that Total T will decrease because more of it is unbound and unprotected from liver metabolism.

**Youthful55guy** · 09-16-2018, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by JuliusPleaser

Yes. I figured it was mostly water weight; now I am floating around 215-217 on average daily. Its only been about 17 days of dieting.

My point is, should I not be dieting at all at this time, until I have higher T-levels? I think you alluded to that being the case?

Even is it was just water weight, a 1000 calorie per day deficit is pretty drastic.

Regarding your question, should you not diet at this time? If my goal was fertility restoration, I would not. Moderate exercise, yes. Even a moderate calorie deficit (e.g., 300 cal/day) will be contrary to your goal. My approach would be a healthy lifestyle and parity for body composition.

**JuliusPleaser** · 09-16-2018, 12:26 PM

Indeed.

My deficit was basically 3-4 days at only 2000 cals, then 2 refeeds in a row of whatever I want... Its a spawn of Lyle McDonalds Ultimate Diet 2.0 which is 3-4 days 50% deficit, followed by 2 carb ups that are like 150%-200% of carb increase of cals.

well for body composition, that is my actual avatar last year, so I dont' think I'll be recomping into that. If I'm lucky, I won't become a fat whale. I'll update this post with my blood results which I should receive tomorrow.

Part of me says got back on 100mg TRT and just do 3000iu of HCG . But I want to get a sperm analysis done before I do anything else to see if that last 6 weeks have increased my count from zero.