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    How to raise lvl if I can't get TRT

    Hello- new to site and looking for advice on TRT or some other method of getting that strong young feeling back again. I'm 38, 5'4 about 215lbs. Past 5 years I've noticed I don't have that killer drive anymore, loss of strength, gain fat etc. I had a Testosterone test done and was told I'm normal. I asked what that means by normal because what's normal for someone else might not be normal for me. I'm still waiting on that answer. If I can't get TRT what else could I do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PinV View Post
    Hello- new to site and looking for advice on TRT or some other method of getting that strong young feeling back again. I'm 38, 5'4 about 215lbs. Past 5 years I've noticed I don't have that killer drive anymore, loss of strength, gain fat etc. I had a Testosterone test done and was told I'm normal. I asked what that means by normal because what's normal for someone else might not be normal for me. I'm still waiting on that answer. If I can't get TRT what else could I do?
    Ask for your blood results, not just their interpretation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallowmere View Post
    Ask for your blood results, not just their interpretation.
    They are yours, you paid for them.


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    Yes, I did call and leave a message with the receptionist. I will post them when I have the numbers.

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    From 250-1100 ng/dL I’m at 312. I get that I'm within what they say is normal but going by how I used to be and feel it can't be normal for me if that makes any sense.
    Last edited by PinV; 01-25-2018 at 03:05 PM.

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    Redact personal info and post up the actual BW if possible.
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    We also need the free test levels


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    Quote Originally Posted by PinV View Post
    From 250-1100 ng/dL I’m at 312. I get that I'm within what they say is normal but going by how I used to be and feel it can't be normal for me if that makes any sense.
    your test levels are "normal" , they are just not "optimal" ,, and optimal is what you want. most doctors are NOT trained to get you into optimal health or shape, they are trained to stop the bleeding and make you normal or at least not dead.

    you may need to seek out a doctor or clinic that specializes in optimal health, like a rejuvenation or anti aging clinic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    your test levels are "normal" , they are just not "optimal" ,, and optimal is what you want. most doctors are NOT trained to get you into optimal health or shape, they are trained to stop the bleeding and make you normal or at least not dead.

    you may need to seek out a doctor or clinic that specializes in optimal health, like a rejuvenation or anti aging clinic.
    I would agree, What are your stats? High BF will decrease test. There is also going down the road of getting them online from a reputable company/URL

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    most doctors are NOT trained to get you into optimal health or shape, they are trained to stop the bleeding and make you normal or at least not dead.

    Or sometimes "Mostly Dead"


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    These are the sheets I was given. Is this what you are looking for or something else?
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    Yes optimal lol thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by David LoPan View Post
    I would agree, What are your stats? High BF will decrease test. There is also going down the road of getting them online from a reputable company/URL
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    This was 3 months ago right after a workout. 5,4" 207lbs, age 38
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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
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    Ok I am assuming that is not on my sheets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Redact personal info and post up the actual BW if possible.
    The sheets that I put up... is that what you were looking for or do I need to ask for something else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PinV View Post
    Ok I am assuming that is not on my sheets?
    No, it’s not. Your total test is there, but not free T nor SHBG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallowmere View Post
    No, it’s not. Your total test is there, but not free T nor SHBG.
    When I call the doctor today, what exactly am I asking them for?

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    Ask for:

    Free T
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    LH/FSH

    Cortisol and Prolactin if the doc will. Looking to find the cause of your low T. Your TSH is fine but it's a weak indicator. I don't see a need to further pursue thyroid at this time though. Any head or testical trauma in your past?

    Your total T is low as expected and we need to see other items to assess why. Do not accept "your in range" from your doctor as you're not a number. Make sure you're treated based on how you feel.

    When you posted your height and weight I was expecting you to be quite heavy. You're not! You look good, keep it up!
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    damn judging by your physique id say youre at 3000 ng/dl. gj!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Ask for:

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    Cortisol and Prolactin if the doc will. Looking to find the cause of your low T. Your TSH is fine but it's a weak indicator. I don't see a need to further pursue thyroid at this time though. Any head or testical trauma in your past?

    Your total T is low as expected and we need to see other items to assess why. Do not accept "your in range" from your doctor as you're not a number. Make sure you're treated based on how you feel.

    When you posted your height and weight I was expecting you to be quite heavy. You're not! You look good, keep it up!
    I'll have everything on Monday or should. 2009 I suffered a head injury from a car accident. Bleeding on brain in 2 spots. Thank you. I've been big into lifting since my early 20s. FYI, I don't know anything about this kinda stuff, so forgive me for the noob questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Closhmo View Post
    damn judging by your physique id say youre at 3000 ng/dl. gj!
    Thank you! That makes me feel better.

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