Trt rage

[Geni]

I have been on trt for 10 years
Currently 45
I blast once a year.
Im concerned with my moods and the way it affects my relationships.
My Protocol is 3/4 cc test cyp / week
. 25 Armindex 2/ week
No hcg because doc doesn’t want to prescribe.
My blast is 100 mg Npp 3/week for 14 weeks.
I have Degenerated discs throughout my spine and bad shoulders.The Npp helps alot with my condition
I don’t want to give anything up .
But something has to give , my mood is out of control.
I am also prone to negative emotions prior to trt.

[Obs]

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[GearHeaded]

not sure why almost everyone wants to blame their mood (or every bad health effect they've ever had in life , from high cholesterol to a damn hemaroid) on exogenous hormone usage. the reality is , your grandma probably gets in a bad mood too on occasions. she probably also has a hemaroid flare up on occasion too. yet she's never touched a steroid in her life. BUT when someone on TRT/steroids has any issue what so ever the first thing they think the cause is steroid usage.

almost every negative side effect we experience, from limp dick to depression, is also even more so experienced by a large majority of the population that doesn't even know what steroids are.

your mood changes issue is a part of being a human being. this is something everyone deals with wither on TRT or not.

[Obs]

Having perfect testosterone levels pisses me rtfo!

[Obs]

Learn to control your emotions and buy shit illegally and dose as you see fit?

[Geni]

The nor19’s tend to be harder to work with as far as emotional fluctuations
And im not jumping on the r rage wagon.
In a perfect world I would be Married to Dana lynn Baily
We would do drop sets and all would be well

[Geni]

The Yates way ?

[Obs]

Even if I could use a doctor I blast and bridge/cruise. I dont deem normal levels of test suitable to my goals. There is enough info here you can take matters into your own hands and do a better job than your doctor

[Chrisp83TRT]

Even if I could use a doctor I blast and bridge/cruise. I dont deem normal levels of test suitable to my goals. There is enough info here you can take matters into your own hands and do a better job than your doctor

Couldn't agree more.

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[AR's King Silabolin]

Make sure your prolactin levels are in order. Blasting with npp every year could cause trouble. I know from personal experience that elevated prolactinlevels if not treated dont easily and quick go back to nornal after a cycle.
But..i got more emotional from it, not so much anger.
But u dont wanna have too much prolactin if you have a history of some mood problems.

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[GearHeaded]

Make sure your prolactin levels are in order. Blasting with npp every year could cause trouble. I know from personal experience that elevated prolactinlevels if not treated dont easily and quick go back to nornal after a cycle.
But..i got more emotional from it, not so much anger.
But u dont wanna have too much prolactin if you have a history of some mood problems.

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if he is on TRT and working with a doc then you'd hope he is getting blood work often and levels checked.. but more then likely his running only 300mg of NPP a few months out of the year is going to NOT show up as elevated prolactin on blood work.
we all talk about prolactin issues with 19 nors, YET when guys get blood work (who blast 19 nors year round) prolactin is rarely elevated.
I know a doc who works with a lot of steroid users and he has said he's only seen prolactin levels elevated on a guys blood work once in his life.. its something that is just rare.

note: of course guys that are sensitive to progestinic activity and progesterone based compounds (ie, 19 nors) can have negative symptoms similar to having elevated prolactin (without their levels actually being elevated). this is due to things happening at the receptor level, not necessarily serum levels of the actual hormone

[AR's King Silabolin]

if he is on TRT and working with a doc then you'd hope he is getting blood work often and levels checked.. but more then likely his running only 300mg of NPP a few months out of the year is going to NOT show up as elevated prolactin on blood work.
we all talk about prolactin issues with 19 nors, YET when guys get blood work (who blast 19 nors year round) prolactin is rarely elevated.
I know a doc who works with a lot of steroid users and he has said he's only seen prolactin levels elevated on a guys blood work once in his life.. its something that is just rare.

note: of course guys that are sensitive to progestinic activity and progesterone based compounds (ie, 19 nors) can have negative symptoms similar to having elevated prolactin (without their levels actually being elevated). this is due to things happening at the receptor level, not necessarily serum levels of the actual hormone

Naiv. Lets say he is a bit high on e2 as his doc is not that keen on the trt anchis. The sligthly elevated prolactin could double the sides.
I like to use my own experience, rather than what someone says that they have heard a doc said or red.
And in my case prolactin became an issue and i didnt not overdue the 19nors.
And it was real stubborn.
In lack of other theories, e2/prolactin should be ruled out first. Say what u will, but i consider 300 mg npp a mod dose, not low. And 14 weeks long.

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[j2048b]

Id suggest splitting the test dose up and pinning a few times per week

Source ur own hcg ....dr crisler has a great protocol on how to run the hcg

See how splitting the dosage up, hell some even do 10 mlg per day....and feel better

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[GearHeaded]

Naiv. Lets say he is a bit high on e2 as his doc is not that keen on the trt anchis. The sligthly elevated prolactin could double the sides.
I like to use my own experience, rather than what someone says that they have heard a doc said or red.

so you've actually gotten blood work done and seen your prolactin was elevated above the normal range ? just curious (as this is very rare).
or are you just 'assuming' you had prolactin issues

[Geni]

I see the endo on a 6 month basis.
And we are not really looking for prolactin, and i have to ask for E2 to be checked.
He doesn’t belive in treating with an AI or including hcg .
He did give me Caber off label for treating ssri related anogasmia.
Im rolling with the punches getting my blood work paid for while squeezing in a blast here ad there .
My E2 is in the normal range , sometimes in the upper normal.
Im dealing with Degenerative disc disease for the past 8 years.
The only thing that gives me some relief are the nor 19.
I took a long brake from this forum.
I lost interest and put my trust in my doctor.

I must say the level of knowledge here is beyond great.
Trt is relatively new to Doctors and quite frankly most of them don’t know jack.

[EDCG19]

Sometimes TRT rage isn't enough and you need to try TREN rage

[kelkel]

Geni why not try low dose deca alongside your TRT throughout the year for joint relief. Just take a break prior to blood work so you don't screw up T levels with false elevated readings.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4837307/

[Quester]

Even if I could use a doctor I blast and bridge/cruise. I dont deem normal levels of test suitable to my goals. There is enough info here you can take matters into your own hands and do a better job than your doctor

Agreed. I don't know a whole lot but I know a little. When I go into the dr/np office, I can tell they feel annoyed due to all of the "extra" BW things I want and that the reasons elude them. Its not just that they don't know, they don't care.



But, I have learned to look happy, dumb and attentive when they que me with their body language and say: "your ______ levels are _________.

[Obs]

Agreed. I don't know a whole lot but I know a little. When I go into the dr/np office, I can tell they feel annoyed due to all of the "extra" BW things I want and that the reasons elude them. Its not just that they don't know, they don't care.



But, I have learned to look happy, dumb and attentive when they que me with their body language and say: "your ______ levels are _________.

Lol!

Just what I have noticed of the people I know on trt...

Test
HCG
AI

99% chance you won't get one of them in a trt reiment and most only give test on a weekly dosage or worse.