(optimized) Hormone Replacement Therapy

[Windex]

What is the difference between TRT and HRT ?

Generally, TRT covers the bare bones - Testosterone with (sometimes) HCG and (sometimes) and AI. Those who also take HGH could arguably be put in this category as well assuming therapeutic dosages. However, HRT programs look beyond Testosterone for anabolics to improve the body.

What are the advantages to an optimized or advanced HRT Program (also known as a "cruise")?

- Proactive health control (injuries, sickness, etc)
- Consistent and maintainable progression
- Less need to cycle resulting in less "Yo-Yo" of a physique
- Therapeutic benefits of different compounds at safe dosages
- Less taxing on body
- Extra anabolic allow for easier time managing caloric intake without extreme surplus or deficit


How can cruising provide the same or potentially better gains versus TRT + Cycles?

Example: Jimmy is on 200mg Test per week and twice a year he blasts 800mg of Gear for 12 weeks. Over 52 weeks that is 24, 800mg of gear.

The second option is Jimmy is on 100mg Test, 100mg Deca , 250mg EQ and doesn't cycle. Over the same 52 weeks Jimmy has used 23, 400mg of gear. Now if on this setup Jimmy blasted for even 4 weeks once or twice he would exceed the gear usage in the first example.


The What, Why, and How Much :

I'm a big advocate of MWF injections although some people do E3D. In my opinion and experience I don't feel 2x injections on long esters is sufficient.


Deca-Durabolin :

Why: High anabolic load, supportive to joints, therapeutic pain masking/management
Dosage: 100-200mg
Caution: If your Dr orders bloodwork make sure it's the right testosterone one otherwise Deca needs to be pulled out 6-8 weeks prior to bloodwork

Primobolan

Why: Evidence to support immune system, osteoprotective, little to no side effects at therapeutic dosages. No markers on bloodwork
Dosage: 100-300mg
Caution: Price is a limiting factor and if you cannot invest then see EQ as your alternative

Equipoise

Why: Added anabolic load without androgenic . Some evidence to help with estrogen control. Budget friendly. Long ester makes travel easy. Front load prior to trips.
Dosage: 200-300mg
Caution: Will elevate CBC bloodwork, takes a long time to clear system. Monitor blood pressure as well

Masteron Enanthate

Why: Serves similar purpose as Tamoxifen , DIM, and AI's with the benefit of not being a cancer drug but instead being a steroid .
Dosage: 100-300mg (assuming Test under 200mg)
Caution : If using Mast as an AI for HRT should evaluate entire program to see why/how estrogen is a concern.

Winstrol :

Why: Helps with SHBG numbers
Dosage 5-10mg per day
Caution: Can cause drying and lubrications issues even at low doses.

Anavar :

Why: Added Anabolic load, healing properties, low side effect and risk profile at low doses
Dosage: 5-25mg per day
Caution: Price can be a limiting factor like Primo. Can also be faked - research ahead.

Tren E or Parabolan (Tren Hex)

Why: increased nutrient partitioning, along more bang for buck in caloric deficit compared to thyroid, clen , etc
Dosage : 30-125mg
Caution: Respect compound even at low dose. Can be taxing as 5x androgenic. Regular bloodwork to prevent surprises. Liver protection when cruising on Tren

Other Considerations:

MK677 25mg-30mg per day. Split dose if you need an appetite boost during the day otherwise all at night.

Cardarine 10-20mg/day. Added endurance, helps with cardio and cutting in a deficit.

Injectable B12 : 500-1000mcg per day - when appetite tanks (ie getting over being sick) this can help kickstart it up again.

Thyroid (T3/T4)

Blasting :

With an upgraded HRT program, your total amount of weekly gear (in mg) is higher so you don't need a big 12 or 16 week ABC cycle. Instead, you can have 4-6 week blasts with short esters and then maintain the growth with your anabolics. Alternatively, you can rotate some compounds easily.

[i_SLAM_cougars]

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[charger69]

This is great information. It started out with the time period to stop before testing and then left from that standard. Do you have information on the others and how long they need to be stopped prior to testing?


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[Windex]

This is great information. It started out with the time period to stop before testing and then left from that standard. Do you have information on the others and how long they need to be stopped prior to testing?


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Primo, Masteron , and Winstrol (at those dosages) should not impact bloodwork. EQ I would pull 8-10 weeks if I was getting CBC run and was concerned otherwise I'd just leave it in. Anavar at 5-25mg hasn't changed my lipids but I have only run BW once since starting at 20mg/day.

Cardarine, MK, ans Thyroid I am not sure of yet.

[kelkel]

Caution: If your Dr orders bloodwork make sure it's the right testosterone one otherwise Deca needs to be pulled out 6-8 weeks prior to bloodwork

Great write up Windex!

To help clarify for the guys, Deca is classified as an interference substance for the standard ECLIA testosterone test and will give a false elevated testosterone total, possibly resulting in cardiac arrest for you doctor who I guarantee does not know this fact. Instead you need to use the LC'/MS-MS testing methodology and it has to be noted on the script as well, otherwise the lab will default to their standard ECLIA version.

[Smokin2020$]

Great read bro!

How long could a guy take primo at therapeutic dose? Year round along with test and hgh?!

Thanks

[Windex]

Great read bro!

How long could a guy take primo at therapeutic dose? Year round along with test and hgh?!

Thanks

It can be taken year round.

[Smokin2020$]

Great...thanks!

[Windex]

For people that work a cookie cutter Monday-Friday 9-5 style work week, I think the most convenient injection schedule is Wed-Fri-Sun. It may not be applicable for everyone but for a lot of people they want one less thing to worry about on top of work, kids, spouse, etc Mon to Fri.

Having both Friday and Sunday in your injection schedule makes it easy to inject at end of work week and on weekend. Only one injection (Wed) is done during the hustle and bustle of the work week.

(Obviously COVID aside, something to keep in mind for the future if applicable to you).