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    E2 in range still no sex drive!

    I switched to ed test prop injections and upped my adex to .5 mg Ed!
    My e2 went from 72 to 11 on a sensitive test I still. Feel I have low t!

    My dose is 15 mg Ed of test prop!

    I’m thinking about upping the dose to 175 mg once a week!

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    Your should probably post up your full lab

    11 on E2 is to low
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    Before you upped your adex and prop what was your routine?

    How long were you running thst routine before making a change?

    How long did you run this new routine before blood work?

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    Thank u for reply!

    Quote Originally Posted by xxblazenlowxx View Post
    Before you upped your adex and prop what was your routine?

    How long were you running thst routine before making a change?

    How long did you run this new routine before blood work?
    My routine before prop was 62.5 mg of test split up into two doses!

    I was on the routine for 8-10 weeks no ai!
    My e2 came back at 72 on a sensitive test(range 8-28) off the charts my libido was non existent morning wood was non existent! I haven’t had a sex drive since before hopping on test I tried herbs and tribulus and my sex drive was great!

    Prolactin in range!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxblazenlowxx View Post
    Your should probably post up your full lab

    11 on E2 is to low
    Yes indeed that's on the low end. You want it a little higher in my opinion.

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    Cut back on the adex (duh, I know). You went from no ai (which for you was too little) to 3.5mg per week (which is way too much for anything except breast cancer). I would back the Adex down to like .25 2x per week and retest. Try not to change too many variables at the same time because you won't know what did what. You need to find the sweet spot, probably upper end of normal (mid to upper 20s) and you will likely get the pep back in your step, so to speak.

    I have found mucuna pruriens and longjack effective for libido and mood in my days before HRT. Now, when I take longjack I seem to get snappy and pugnacious - like ready to fight all the time. Anyhow, I don't know which for sure put the lead back in the pencil, but I had good luck with the combo before doc supervised hrt.

    Edit: you have likely completely tanked your E2 now, btw. If it was 11 at the time of test, and you continued with that dose of adex, you probably brought it down more.
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    Also, do you have your other lab results? 72 E isn't awful if your T is running at 1800 or some crazy number (for trt), but would be terrible if your T is at 700.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cylon357 View Post
    Also, do you have your other lab results? 72 E isn't awful if your T is running at 1800 or some crazy number (for trt), but would be terrible if your T is at 700.
    Someone told me to up the dose to 175 mg and lower the adex to eod .5? They said low 20s is perfect for e2!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mmaman View Post
    Someone told me to up the dose to 175 mg and lower the adex to eod .5? They said low 20s is perfect for e2!
    On what did they base the recommend of 175mg? Have they seen the rest of your labs? For the best responses, you will really need to post your other numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cylon357 View Post
    On what did they base the recommend of 175mg? Have they seen the rest of your labs? For the best responses, you will really need to post your other numbers.
    They just told me a dude my weight 286 needs any where from 175 to 250 mg of trt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mmaman View Post
    They just told me a dude my weight 286 needs any where from 175 to 250 mg of trt!
    You can see why that is a bad idea, right?

    For best results, post up the rest of your labs. We are only guessing based on what you have provided so far. But with your E2 that high, you probably do NOT need more test.

    Labs will tell the tale.

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    I only checked e2 and prolactin! Since I thought that’s what controls sex drive!
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    I would recommend you drop the adex

    You were originally doing prop twice a week so of course your blood work is going to be messed up

    Why dont you continue to use the prop every day at 15mg like your already doing

    Drop the adex and see how you feel in 4 weeks

    Is there a reason your attempting trt with such a short ester?

    FYI my E2 is around 42 and I cant get enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mmaman View Post
    I switched to ed test prop injections and upped my adex to .5 mg Ed!
    My e2 went from 72 to 11 on a sensitive test I still. Feel I have low t!

    My dose is 15 mg Ed of test prop!

    Iím thinking about upping the dose to 175 mg once a week!
    not to be rude, but this is a silly question. . you do know that a common side effect or Arimidex usage is a lack of sex drive , right ? yet your sex drive goes down so you up your arimidex dosage, the very thing thats causing your problem lol .

    also, estrogen is the very hormone that is responsible for the male sex drive,, yet you want to lower it. wtf, you got it all ass backwards brother

    just throw the adex in the trash and you'll be fine in a week or two. besides the above statement, Arimidex use will weaken your immune system and now is definitely not the time to be walking around with a weak immune system
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    I’ve said this in a couple other posts before.. from cycling, to going on TRT, and now blast/cruise methods.. my sex drive has never changed. If anything I wish it would have gone higher to keep up with the wifey! Lol

    IMO, like everything else with this game, it’s all dependent on the person. I remember buddies from the past, talking about how horny their cycle made them that they wanted to fuck anything on 2 legs. I think a lot of dudes (Not trying to assume you fit this category) come in to running gear with overly high expectations. That they’re gonna turn into this porn star fucking Superman weight lifting mfer off a basic 500mg test cycle.

    But like everyone else said.. drop the AI, keep up with regular injections and give it a couple weeks. Can’t be taking advice from any geek off the street.

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    How many threads do you have to start about your sex drive? You dont listen to what anybody tells so why keep asking lol

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    This sounds like another guy that was on here about 6 months or so ago. Kept asking questions, bumping his thread and ignoring advice. Even writes like the same guy. Might not be the same cat, but I'm done here until he starts providing the info needed to provide solid advice.

    It must work somehow though because there was a lot of solid advice on that thread that he chose to ignore.

    OP, if that wasn't you, my apologies. If it was, when you gonna learn to listen?

    Either way, you have a lot of solid advice here. Good luck.
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    Why all the drugs to fix the problem (I am fully aware that this is a drug forum - but here you can't have threads about recreational drugs... go figure -)?

    Ever think to try a HOT CHICK...???

    That should fix your sex drive problem...

    Just a suggestion...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cylon357 View Post
    This sounds like another guy that was on here about 6 months or so ago. Kept asking questions, bumping his thread and ignoring advice. Even writes like the same guy. Might not be the same cat, but I'm done here until he starts providing the info needed to provide solid advice.

    It must work somehow though because there was a lot of solid advice on that thread that he chose to ignore.

    OP, if that wasn't you, my apologies. If it was, when you gonna learn to listen?

    Either way, you have a lot of solid advice here. Good luck.
    I am with Cyclone357; sounds like the same guy...

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    Is this what we do in quarantine, eat adex by the minute like tums when we just chugged hot sauce?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle1337 View Post
    Is this what we do in quarantine, eat adex by the minute like tums when we just chugged hot sauce?
    How could you resist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mmaman View Post
    I switched to ed test prop injections and upped my adex to .5 mg Ed!
    My e2 went from 72 to 11 on a sensitive test I still. Feel I have low t!

    My dose is 15 mg Ed of test prop!

    I’m thinking about upping the dose to 175 mg once a week!
    Why are you switching to injecting prop once/ week? That's a guaranteed rollercoaster.

    Stick with cyp or enanthate and try 50-60mg of cyp/ enanthate every 3 days. Run it for a good 4-6 weeks and check your E2 with the sensitive assay.

    What about your DHT levels?

    The upper end of the E2 range is where most guys feel and function better

    Don't go by feel, go by lab values. What do your free T and SHBG levels look like?
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    Moving to the proper forum for increased input.
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    Also, you pulled the ultrasensitive E2 assay vs. the sensitive E2 assay.
    Make sure to pick one type of test and stick with it as I'm pretty sure you can't take the reference ranges or results from one test and apply it to the other type of test. You need an established baseline and then work from there using the same kind of E2 assay.
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    ....from LabCorp site.


    Estradiol results obtained with different assay methods cannot be used interchangeably in serial testing. It is recommended that only one assay method be used consistently to monitor serial patient results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mmaman View Post
    They just told me a dude my weight 286 needs any where from 175 to 250 mg of trt!
    Inaccurate. Only labwork can determine your optimal dosage.
    I don't know your bf%< but it is possible that a higher body fat % contributes to a low SHBG, which should give you a higher free T level and free T is what gets the job done.
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    Thatís what I already did!

    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    Why are you switching to injecting prop once/ week? That's a guaranteed rollercoaster.

    Stick with cyp or enanthate and try 50-60mg of cyp/ enanthate every 3 days. Run it for a good 4-6 weeks and check your E2 with the sensitive assay.

    What about your DHT levels?

    The upper end of the E2 range is where most guys feel and function better

    Don't go by feel, go by lab values. What do your free T and SHBG levels look like?
    I was on 62.5 mg twice a week no ai for 10 weeks and my e2 was at 72 on a sensitive (range 8-28)

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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    Also, you pulled the ultrasensitive E2 assay vs. the sensitive E2 assay.
    Make sure to pick one type of test and stick with it as I'm pretty sure you can't take the reference ranges or results from one test and apply it to the other type of test. You need an established baseline and then work from there using the same kind of E2 assay.
    AG, is either better for men? I've seen both but assumed they were the same thing. Clearly, I forgot what Benny Hill said about assume...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cylon357 View Post
    AG, is either better for men? I've seen both but assumed they were the same thing. Clearly, I forgot what Benny Hill said about assume...
    I've never known of a benefit, but that doesn't mean there isn't one.

    Most of the Drs. in this area use sensitive E2, so I've always stuck with it. Plus I can kind of compare my values with everyone else's results by using the sensitive E2.

    Kel or Y55G might have some solid information regarding sensitive vs. ultrasensitive assays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mmaman View Post
    I was on 62.5 mg twice a week no ai for 10 weeks and my e2 was at 72 on a sensitive (range 8-28)
    If you were doing 15mg/day of prop, switching to 175mg of prop once per week is really going to make things worse and possibly give you an even bigger conversion rate.


    When you were injecting 62.5mg 2x/week what ester of test were you using? What was your free T on that protocol? Also, you mentioned low/no sex drive. Did you check DHT levels?

    This isn't a Dr. prescribed protocol is it? I've seen cyp/prop blends done by a compounding pharmacy, but never seen prop used solo and it looks like you are from the US.
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    I meant switching to 25 mg Ed!

    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    If you were doing 15mg/day of prop, switching to 175mg of prop once per week is really going to make things worse and possibly give you an even bigger conversion rate.


    When you were injecting 62.5mg 2x/week what ester of test were you using? What was your free T on that protocol? Also, you mentioned low/no sex drive. Did you check DHT levels?

    This isn't a Dr. prescribed protocol is it? I've seen cyp/prop blends done by a compounding pharmacy, but never seen prop used solo and it looks like you are from the US.
    I was gonna do 25 mg Ed and lower adex to .5 eod to bring estrogen up just to mid 20s!

    One thing I do notice is when I take Dhea supplements I get super aggressive and energized!

    And I was using test e twice a week! Felt like i still had low t!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cylon357 View Post
    This sounds like another guy that was on here about 6 months or so ago. Kept asking questions, bumping his thread and ignoring advice. Even writes like the same guy. Might not be the same cat, but I'm done here until he starts providing the info needed to provide solid advice.

    It must work somehow though because there was a lot of solid advice on that thread that he chose to ignore.

    OP, if that wasn't you, my apologies. If it was, when you gonna learn to listen?

    Either way, you have a lot of solid advice here. Good luck.
    This guy here and here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mmaman View Post
    I was gonna do 25 mg Ed and lower adex to .5 eod to bring estrogen up just to mid 20s!

    One thing I do notice is when I take Dhea supplements I get super aggressive and energized!

    And I was using test e twice a week! Felt like i still had low t!
    You need to work off of labwork, not exclusively how you feel.

    Do you have any free T values, SHBG values, DHT values, and sensitive E2 values for your time while on enanthate ? You posted an ultrasensitive earlier.


    You would be better off to stick with a longer ester such as cyp or enanthate, get dialed in on your dosage, adjust dosage if necessary based on relevant labwork, stick with one type of E2 assay, and work things in line.

    It's not like driving a car and if you suddenly want to hang a left so you just turn the steering wheel to the left for immediate results.

    It takes time to get everything dialed in. Pull in-depth labs like posted in the Finding a TRT physician:

    https://forums.steroid.com/hormone-r...physician.html
    As far as sex drive, DHT is a significant contributor to sex drive. There are plenty of studies online.

    Also, now you say your prop dosage will be 25 mg/day, earlier you said 175mg once/ week. You really need to get things in line( preferably with the aid of a competent physician), and don't take a shotgun approach.

    Adding too many variables at once makes things very difficult.
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    That was a typo!

    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    You need to work off of labwork, not exclusively how you feel.

    Do you have any free T values, SHBG values, DHT values, and sensitive E2 values for your time while on enanthate ? You posted an ultrasensitive earlier.


    You would be better off to stick with a longer ester such as cyp or enanthate, get dialed in on your dosage, adjust dosage if necessary based on relevant labwork, stick with one type of E2 assay, and work things in line.

    It's not like driving a car and if you suddenly want to hang a left so you just turn the steering wheel to the left for immediate results.

    It takes time to get everything dialed in. Pull in-depth labs like posted in the Finding a TRT physician:

    https://forums.steroid.com/hormone-r...physician.html
    As far as sex drive, DHT is a significant contributor to sex drive. There are plenty of studies online.

    Also, now you say your prop dosage will be 25 mg/day, earlier you said 175mg once/ week. You really need to get things in line( preferably with the aid of a competent physician), and don't take a shotgun approach.

    Adding too many variables at once makes things very difficult.
    I ainít that stupid!

    I was gonna do 25 mg Ed and what about Dhea giving me super aggression why is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mmaman View Post
    I ain’t that stupid!

    I was gonna do 25 mg Ed and what about Dhea giving me super aggression why is that?
    DHEA can cause aggression in people. If it gives you problems, drop it. It's that simple.
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