Coming off TRT to get pregnant.

[PistolPete33]

Were you guys ever able to get pregnant? And if so, how long did it take you?

We’ve been trying since about Sept. she came off birth control in. August and the first month was basically whatever happens. October is when she truly started trying to get pegnant. Watching her periods and knowing which days she is most fertile. Taking prenatal vitamins etc. I started back on HCG about 3 months ago so any swimmers that may have impacted will start showing up hopefully as it takes 3 months for that to happen.

I stopped TRT a month ago and today will be my last day of the doubles Clomid. Tomorrow I will taper it back to 50mg per day and Nolva at 20 instead of 40. It will be interesting to see how the next week goes

I was in a similar situation and came off TRT for about 6 months after being on for 4 years or so. With our situation the issue was mostly with my wife as she has PCOS and endometriosis which the symptoms were suppressed by birth control. Anyhow, I was on HCG the entire time and my numbers always came back really good but I decided to come off to increase our chances in any way possible. Long story shorter I trended just about the same way you have and never crashed so to speak but after 6 or so weeks of clomid only I felt absolutely awful. I actually felt better after stopping the clomid I was having more side effects from it than I realized until after I stopped taking it. Your body is going through so much it’s easy to confuse side effects with symptoms of Low T or suspending injections. Another aspect that’s tough to remember is what being normal even was, it probably feels lethargic compared to what you’re used to. TRT changes perception for sure I am convinced of that. Anyhow, good luck on the journey it sucks for sure but will be worth it.

[PistolPete33]

The past 2 days have been better thank god. Not nearly as emotional at all which I’m happy about. I was starting to doubt my life choices and that was a tough pill to swallow. Today was the first day in the gym that I spent over an hour since I’ve been off. I feel a little better. Lifts are down 10-30% depending on the lift. Rep range was better today than all last week so I was getting 8-10 mostly as last week I could barely muster up 6.

We had sex last night and again no issues so that’s a major plus. We will have arc daily this week so we will see how that goes. Prior to coming off we did it every day but my sex drive has been really low so it’s been like 2 times per week. My libido is somewhat coming back though so that’s a plus. Haven’t had any erection issues so things are still working there and I def cum harder and it’s a lot more and thicker too. All good things. Haha

[Patton222]

We did get pregnant(our second my third) but it was after 9-10 clomid months for her and two failed IVF’s. I stopped TRT maybe on month 4 of her clomid, and I started again after the first IVF as they had enough to freeze for something like 8 more tries which we knew we weren’t going to do that many. It’s a complex story but the second IVF we miscarried at 11 weeks and they did the procedure where they cleaned everything out(brain fart at the moment but it’s common). We agreed to stop trying as she has been 110% effort and pressure on herself since the beginning. As soon as we could have sex again(we weren’t able to since the IVF, then while she was pregnant as it’s iffy the first 12 weeks and then like another 4 after the miscarry) so needless to say as soon as we could we banged it out 2-3 times a day for 10-14 days straight and during that time we got pregnant naturally. With pcos and endometriosis there is no times ovulation and every period is different so planning is impossible and naturally conceiving is nearly impossible. I’m chalking it up to relaxing and easing the pressure, it’s hard to do but there are countless stories out there about getting pregnant after you stop trying.

[PistolPete33]

Holy shit!!!!!! What a rollercoaster ride but I'm super happy you were successful. I can only imagine the difficulty in all that happened prior but in the end it all worked out. I haven't had a sperm analysis done yet but I have a referral to an endo so I'm going to call on Monday and see if I can get in to see him. I've taken home male fertility tests 2 times now and it's come up negative. I haven't taken one in over a month and will do another one next month if she isn't pregnant by then if I'm still waiting to meet with the endo. My first wife we decided to try and BOOM done. This time not so much.

We did get pregnant(our second my third) but it was after 9-10 clomid months for her and two failed IVF’s. I stopped TRT maybe on month 4 of her clomid, and I started again after the first IVF as they had enough to freeze for something like 8 more tries which we knew we weren’t going to do that many. It’s a complex story but the second IVF we miscarried at 11 weeks and they did the procedure where they cleaned everything out(brain fart at the moment but it’s common). We agreed to stop trying as she has been 110% effort and pressure on herself since the beginning. As soon as we could have sex again(we weren’t able to since the IVF, then while she was pregnant as it’s iffy the first 12 weeks and then like another 4 after the miscarry) so needless to say as soon as we could we banged it out 2-3 times a day for 10-14 days straight and during that time we got pregnant naturally. With pcos and endometriosis there is no times ovulation and every period is different so planning is impossible and naturally conceiving is nearly impossible. I’m chalking it up to relaxing and easing the pressure, it’s hard to do but there are countless stories out there about getting pregnant after you stop trying.

[Patton222]

That’s the cliff notes lmao, between my son and this pregnancy it was probably nearly 3 years of appointments and a shit load of clomid(for her) and other fertility drugs and what not. We were either getting divorced from the process or getting pregnant, thankfully it was preg. Hopefully your boys Are good and it’s less of an issue, if she’s super fertile like your first wife that’s over half the battle. I only mentioned my experience mainly due to how you’re feeling and my knowledge on clomid. Hate the stuff hopefully I never have to take it again. When I stopped clomid I felt much better across the board.

[PistolPete33]

Wow, that is wild. Glad it all worked out for you. It def adds a level of stress to the relationship that is for certain. I wonder what will happen if we are not able to conceive. Def hope we don’t have to cross that bridge. It is still super early in the process and I’m def hoping coming off will speed up the process.

Yesterday I started taking only 50mg Clomid. Just got back from gym. I feel ok at best. Def lethargic and motivation is obv down. Still pushing thru. I have 6 weeks until I have my surgery. Def dreading that. I’m not planning on going back on TRT until after the surgery. I’m hoping she will be pregnant by the time I have it as that will obv slow the process down by at least 6 weeks.

[Krb367]

I’ve been on for so long I forgot what life was like just being normal. Haha. I’m almost hoping it isn’t too bad and then I could stay off except run a cycle or two per year and feel like a god during those 12-14 weeks. Lmao

I would prefer a girl. I have a boy now with my ex wife so would be awesome to have a girl. What about you?

My wife and I both already have a girl with previous relationships. My daughter is 9 and hers is 5. Which we call them “ours” even tho the other parents are still involved.

I’m crossing fingers for a boy brother. Same reason as you! And idk if I could handle a house full of 4 women lol

[PistolPete33]

One thing I’ve found is that when I go to the gym it destroys me for the rest of the day. I literally am exhausted to the bone where I need motivation to simply stand up. I’m taking Clomid mid day as opposed to morning and before bed. I hope things level out soon as this is a constant struggle.

We had six again last night for the 3rd night in a row. It was a struggle. My erection got weak and it was hard to finish. When I did finish it felt weird and ultra sensitive. Def never had that experience before. Hopefully tonight is better and I do t want to think about it as I think it will make it happen again

[lovbyts]

Does your insurance cover this or do you have to pay out of pocket? We are trying to weight all our options. How do you feel since being off?

No, insurance will not cover so it's out of pocket. The IVF is around $20,000 and there is no guarantee it works so you have to keep paying. The IUI is only around $2k. We are going with the IUI lol

How do I feel being off TRT? Not a lot different except for the libido interest but then again due to my shoulder issues (Replacement) I have not been hitting the gym or doing anything very active for a while. I forget what it's like going to the gym 5x a week and actually training.

[PistolPete33]

No, insurance will not cover so it's out of pocket. The IVF is around $20,000 and there is no guarantee it works so you have to keep paying. The IUI is only around $2k. We are going with the IUI lol

How do I feel being off TRT? Not a lot different except for the libido interest but then again due to my shoulder issues (Replacement) I have not been hitting the gym or doing anything very active for a while. I forget what it's like going to the gym 5x a week and actually training.

When will you be able to get back in the gym? I'm hoping to do things differently this time around with my 2nd hip. The last one I took off nearly a year as the full recovery they wanted you to wait 12 months. I did mostly rehab things and I still have my before picture of when I started back in the gym and I had hardly any muscle at all. They've since changed it so all restrictions are lifted at 6 months. I'm hoping I can get back in the gym 4-6 weeks post surgery and just doing very light upper body and rehab exercises and some mild cardio like the exercise bike which is highly recommended for recovery. I'm hoping to be able to do a cut in the summer and be lean by the end of the summer. Who the hell knows though. I'm hoping she will be pregnant before I need the surgery so I can go back on. haha

[PistolPete33]

Last night I started getting a weird sensation. I feel dizzy and light headed almost like a brain zap. Def. concerned about it. It is better today but def. not 100%. I took some Ibuprofen earlier but it is still lingering. I think I'm going to skip the gym today and just rest for the day. This entire process sucks.

[PistolPete33]

today is day 3 with this weird headache. It is better today than yesterday so that's a good thing but still really annoying. Today is the first day though that I don't have the extreme fatigue. The gym went well this morning and I got in a good workout. Physically I feel pretty good today minus this headache. I'm sure it has something to do with dropping the Clomid or my body going thru some strange change trying to get homeostasis.

[PistolPete33]

I still have a mild headache but it is better. My energy levels are def starting to come back and I don’t have the deep fatigue any longer. My sex drive is really bad though. We haven’t had sex in several days and I don’t even want to. She made a comment last night that I haven’t initiated sex in weeks. I could def do without which obv isn’t good for getting pregnant. The gym is still a bit of a struggle as all my lifts are down considerably. I’m not focused on that as I don’t have any goals right now bc my surgery is coming up. Post surgery my goal will be to lean out and try to regain some of my size.

[PistolPete33]

I feel like I'm starting to recover which is encouraging. My workouts are getting a little better each day. My weight is the same but I've def put on a little bit of fat. Part of this is because I don't have any goals right now with my fitness because of the upcoming surgery. I haven't done much cardio either because my hip has been killing me. My libidio is def. going up so hopefully that continues. Still takes me longer to finish but that is OK so long as I can.

[PistolPete33]

So now I’m having issues sexually. We tried having sex tonight and it wasn’t even remotely happening. My dick wouldn’t get hard no matter what we tried. I’ve never experienced this before and I’m fucking crushed right now. We even got into a fight over it. I said I was just going to go back on and of course she is saying that it is fair she won’t have kids then. This entire fucking process sucks

[vanisle4x4]

So now I’m having issues sexually. We tried having sex tonight and it wasn’t even remotely happening. My dick wouldn’t get hard no matter what we tried. I’ve never experienced this before and I’m fucking crushed right now. We even got into a fight over it. I said I was just going to go back on and of course she is saying that it is fair she won’t have kids then. This entire fucking process sucks

I wish you the best im debating trying to come off after 2 years for preparing for children in the next year or two.

I was on over a year previously and took me a year and half to get normal sex drive back I hope you a much quicker recovery.

Good luck friend.

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[Cylon357]

So now I’m having issues sexually. We tried having sex tonight and it wasn’t even remotely happening. My dick wouldn’t get hard no matter what we tried. I’ve never experienced this before and I’m fucking crushed right now. We even got into a fight over it. I said I was just going to go back on and of course she is saying that it is fair she won’t have kids then. This entire fucking process sucks

Add some longjack. That stuff brings the 'spontaneous boners' to me when I'm on it. To the point of almost being embarrassing.

[PistolPete33]

I’ve never heard of that before I will look into it. I’m hesitant to take anything right now though bc if she gets pregnant I don’t want to potentially have issues with the baby Bc I was taking something. The only thing I take now is Clomid and Nolva along with Cialis. I’m torn too Bc if she gets pregnant and I go back on and something happens we have to start over. Not sure if it’s worth staying off Lots of things to consider. We are going to try having sex again tonight so hopefully no issues.

Looking into it there is evidence that it can increase sperm count. Hmmmm

Add some longjack. That stuff brings the 'spontaneous boners' to me when I'm on it. To the point of almost being embarrassing.

[PistolPete33]

Wow, a year and a half???? I'm praying I can get her pregnant quickly from here on out. Fingers crossed. Def. don't want this to be a long term thing.

I wish you the best im debating trying to come off after 2 years for preparing for children in the next year or two.

I was on over a year previously and took me a year and half to get normal sex drive back I hope you a much quicker recovery.

Good luck friend.

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[vanisle4x4]

Wow, a year and a half???? I'm praying I can get her pregnant quickly from here on out. Fingers crossed. Def. don't want this to be a long term thing.

It was my body building years and I had heavy use of tren & other chemicals.

Praying for you brother

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[warchild]

Man why torture yourself? Look into HMG. You could even get back on TRT and run HMG.



QUOTE=PistolPete33;7536674]So now I’m having issues sexually. We tried having sex tonight and it wasn’t even remotely happening. My dick wouldn’t get hard no matter what we tried. I’ve never experienced this before and I’m fucking crushed right now. We even got into a fight over it. I said I was just going to go back on and of course she is saying that it is fair she won’t have kids then. This entire fucking process sucks[/QUOTE]

[Cylon357]

I’ve never heard of that before I will look into it. I’m hesitant to take anything right now though bc if she gets pregnant I don’t want to potentially have issues with the baby Bc I was taking something. The only thing I take now is Clomid and Nolva along with Cialis. I’m torn too Bc if she gets pregnant and I go back on and something happens we have to start over. Not sure if it’s worth staying off Lots of things to consider. We are going to try having sex again tonight so hopefully no issues.

Looking into it there is evidence that it can increase sperm count. Hmmmm

Fertility in men is one of the things it has been studied for. Read up some more on it. It is one of the few OTC supps that I have taken that I can definitely tell when I'm on it. Seriously, in my pre-HRT days, the combination of Longjack and Mucuna Pruriens had me feeling GOOD. Like so good that I remember thinking 'Jesus tap-dancing Christ, if this is what AAS is like, sign my ass up!' Even with HRT, I feel better when I use LJ, well either one really. But LJ definitely puts the (surprise) lead in my pencil.

[PistolPete33]

I was originally going to go that route but I was curious how I would feel coming off and wanted to see if it was something I could live with. How I feel now though is not how I want to feel. I’m right about the 6 week mark so I’ve been off for 4 weeks so I’ve been on PCT for 28 days.

Man why torture yourself? Look into HMG. You could even get back on TRT and run HMG.



QUOTE=PistolPete33;7536674]So now I’m having issues sexually. We tried having sex tonight and it wasn’t even remotely happening. My dick wouldn’t get hard no matter what we tried. I’ve never experienced this before and I’m fucking crushed right now. We even got into a fight over it. I said I was just going to go back on and of course she is saying that it is fair she won’t have kids then. This entire fucking process sucks

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[PistolPete33]

This is very encouraging to say the least. I read a ton about it and it seems like what I’ve been missing. I ordered some and it will be here on Thursday. Hopefully it works. If I continue having erection issues I may take a low dose of MT2 as I have it on hand. Hoping this stuff works. Would love to have my libido back

Fertility in men is one of the things it has been studied for. Read up some more on it. It is one of the few OTC supps that I have taken that I can definitely tell when I'm on it. Seriously, in my pre-HRT days, the combination of Longjack and Mucuna Pruriens had me feeling GOOD. Like so good that I remember thinking 'Jesus tap-dancing Christ, if this is what AAS is like, sign my ass up!' Even with HRT, I feel better when I use LJ, well either one really. But LJ definitely puts the (surprise) lead in my pencil.

[PistolPete33]

I forgot to take my Clomid and Nolva last night. Instead of taking it this morning I'm just skipping the day. I feel OK today. Gym was decent. Libido is still way off. The past 4 or 5 days I've woken up without morning wood. Def. concerned about that. My fiancé's period starts in a couple days so that is a good thing. I'm starting on Longjack on Thursday so hopefully within the next week I have some libido back.

I will say too that since my Fiance came off her IUD she has been super moody and her sex drive has dropped considerably. I would have thought the opposite would have happened. She used to want sex daily but now seems to be happy with 2-3 times per week sometimes even less. Def. not productive for making a baby. I have 5 weeks until my surgery so once her period is over I think it is go time. I'm calling a urologist today so hopefully I can get in there quickly but who knows.

[PistolPete33]

I'm definitely leveling off which is encouraging. I'm starting to feel more normal and not tired all the time. The irritability comes and goes but is def. better. I'm not an emotional mess like I was at Christmas time. I've been focusing on more of a pump at the gym so really holding lifts and squeezing to get as much blood to the muscle as possible. This has proven to be a good thing and something I think I've been missing for the past year or so. The last year was all about how much weight I could move and now I don't even care. Do a modest weight but have ultra-Strict form and just isolate the muscle.

My hip has been bothering me a lot lately. Hoping my surgery doesn't get cancelled but who knows.

[Cylon357]

I'll be interested in seeing what you think of the longjack. Give it a few days...

[PistolPete33]

I'll be interested in seeing what you think of the longjack. Give it a few days...

It literally JUST arrived and like an addict I took my first dose immediately. Lmao. Fingers crossed this is the missing link. How long did it take for you to notice anything with it?

[Cylon357]

It literally JUST arrived and like an addict I took my first dose immediately. Lmao. Fingers crossed this is the missing link. How long did it take for you to notice anything with it?

Probably about 3 or 4 days at 250 to 350mg every other day, though it is possible I did everyday to start, I can't remember. I was using Mucuna pruriens as well, but have since come to believe longjack works better for libido.

I can remember the first time I thought it must be working. I was sitting at my desk, looking at a woman, not in a sexual way, mind you. She wasn't unattractive but not glammed up or anything. My mind wandered just for a second to "hmm, I wonder if she would.." then out of nowhere BOING! Spontaneous boner. I was both freaked out (cause now there is NO WAY I can stand up from my desk) and like "yeah, baby!"

Maybe that is TMI, but I like to paint the picture lol

[PistolPete33]

Haha that’s too funny. I remember when I went on TRT and week 3 hit. I couldn’t even focus. Haha. I remember being at the gym looking at the women, not even the hot ones, and feeling like a predator. My wife at the time was not happy because I was constantly initiating sex. Lmao.

[PistolPete33]

We had sex last night. It started out fine no wrection issues and all was good. About 10 or so min on thing started softening up. I was able to finish but wasn’t sure if I was going to or not. Seems to be how it is since being off. Day 2 of Longjack so we shall see how the weekend pans out. Haha

[PistolPete33]

Today is day 4 on Longjack. I woke up with solid wood so I was happy about that. My libido is def. up today. Nothing crazy but def up. Not sure if it is the Longjack, placebo effect, or just a natural change but I will take it. I have bloodwork scheduled for next week and I also meet with my surgeon next week to go over my surgery. UGH.

We had sex last night and no issues getting started at all. I did start going soft again around the 10 minute mark and it was hard to finish. I'm hoping this is temporary. Luckily my fiance has the trick to get me to finish when this happens. haha

The gym was actually really good today too. Strength is up a tiny bit today and I was able to do a lot more. I did extra exercises that I haven't been doing since coming off and stayed longer than I have since being off.

[clarky.]

Sounding good P.

[PistolPete33]

Libido is strong today for the first time since being off. I feel really good today. Hopefully I'm rounding the corner.