Coming off TRT to get pregnant.

[PistolPete33]

The past 2 days have been better thank god. Not nearly as emotional at all which I’m happy about. I was starting to doubt my life choices and that was a tough pill to swallow. Today was the first day in the gym that I spent over an hour since I’ve been off. I feel a little better. Lifts are down 10-30% depending on the lift. Rep range was better today than all last week so I was getting 8-10 mostly as last week I could barely muster up 6.

We had sex last night and again no issues so that’s a major plus. We will have arc daily this week so we will see how that goes. Prior to coming off we did it every day but my sex drive has been really low so it’s been like 2 times per week. My libido is somewhat coming back though so that’s a plus. Haven’t had any erection issues so things are still working there and I def cum harder and it’s a lot more and thicker too. All good things. Haha

[Patton222]

We did get pregnant(our second my third) but it was after 9-10 clomid months for her and two failed IVF’s. I stopped TRT maybe on month 4 of her clomid, and I started again after the first IVF as they had enough to freeze for something like 8 more tries which we knew we weren’t going to do that many. It’s a complex story but the second IVF we miscarried at 11 weeks and they did the procedure where they cleaned everything out(brain fart at the moment but it’s common). We agreed to stop trying as she has been 110% effort and pressure on herself since the beginning. As soon as we could have sex again(we weren’t able to since the IVF, then while she was pregnant as it’s iffy the first 12 weeks and then like another 4 after the miscarry) so needless to say as soon as we could we banged it out 2-3 times a day for 10-14 days straight and during that time we got pregnant naturally. With pcos and endometriosis there is no times ovulation and every period is different so planning is impossible and naturally conceiving is nearly impossible. I’m chalking it up to relaxing and easing the pressure, it’s hard to do but there are countless stories out there about getting pregnant after you stop trying.

[PistolPete33]

Holy shit!!!!!! What a rollercoaster ride but I'm super happy you were successful. I can only imagine the difficulty in all that happened prior but in the end it all worked out. I haven't had a sperm analysis done yet but I have a referral to an endo so I'm going to call on Monday and see if I can get in to see him. I've taken home male fertility tests 2 times now and it's come up negative. I haven't taken one in over a month and will do another one next month if she isn't pregnant by then if I'm still waiting to meet with the endo. My first wife we decided to try and BOOM done. This time not so much.

We did get pregnant(our second my third) but it was after 9-10 clomid months for her and two failed IVF’s. I stopped TRT maybe on month 4 of her clomid, and I started again after the first IVF as they had enough to freeze for something like 8 more tries which we knew we weren’t going to do that many. It’s a complex story but the second IVF we miscarried at 11 weeks and they did the procedure where they cleaned everything out(brain fart at the moment but it’s common). We agreed to stop trying as she has been 110% effort and pressure on herself since the beginning. As soon as we could have sex again(we weren’t able to since the IVF, then while she was pregnant as it’s iffy the first 12 weeks and then like another 4 after the miscarry) so needless to say as soon as we could we banged it out 2-3 times a day for 10-14 days straight and during that time we got pregnant naturally. With pcos and endometriosis there is no times ovulation and every period is different so planning is impossible and naturally conceiving is nearly impossible. I’m chalking it up to relaxing and easing the pressure, it’s hard to do but there are countless stories out there about getting pregnant after you stop trying.

[Patton222]

That’s the cliff notes lmao, between my son and this pregnancy it was probably nearly 3 years of appointments and a shit load of clomid(for her) and other fertility drugs and what not. We were either getting divorced from the process or getting pregnant, thankfully it was preg. Hopefully your boys Are good and it’s less of an issue, if she’s super fertile like your first wife that’s over half the battle. I only mentioned my experience mainly due to how you’re feeling and my knowledge on clomid. Hate the stuff hopefully I never have to take it again. When I stopped clomid I felt much better across the board.

[PistolPete33]

Wow, that is wild. Glad it all worked out for you. It def adds a level of stress to the relationship that is for certain. I wonder what will happen if we are not able to conceive. Def hope we don’t have to cross that bridge. It is still super early in the process and I’m def hoping coming off will speed up the process.

Yesterday I started taking only 50mg Clomid. Just got back from gym. I feel ok at best. Def lethargic and motivation is obv down. Still pushing thru. I have 6 weeks until I have my surgery. Def dreading that. I’m not planning on going back on TRT until after the surgery. I’m hoping she will be pregnant by the time I have it as that will obv slow the process down by at least 6 weeks.

[Krb367]

I’ve been on for so long I forgot what life was like just being normal. Haha. I’m almost hoping it isn’t too bad and then I could stay off except run a cycle or two per year and feel like a god during those 12-14 weeks. Lmao

I would prefer a girl. I have a boy now with my ex wife so would be awesome to have a girl. What about you?

My wife and I both already have a girl with previous relationships. My daughter is 9 and hers is 5. Which we call them “ours” even tho the other parents are still involved.

I’m crossing fingers for a boy brother. Same reason as you! And idk if I could handle a house full of 4 women lol

[PistolPete33]

One thing I’ve found is that when I go to the gym it destroys me for the rest of the day. I literally am exhausted to the bone where I need motivation to simply stand up. I’m taking Clomid mid day as opposed to morning and before bed. I hope things level out soon as this is a constant struggle.

We had six again last night for the 3rd night in a row. It was a struggle. My erection got weak and it was hard to finish. When I did finish it felt weird and ultra sensitive. Def never had that experience before. Hopefully tonight is better and I do t want to think about it as I think it will make it happen again

[lovbyts]

Does your insurance cover this or do you have to pay out of pocket? We are trying to weight all our options. How do you feel since being off?

No, insurance will not cover so it's out of pocket. The IVF is around $20,000 and there is no guarantee it works so you have to keep paying. The IUI is only around $2k. We are going with the IUI lol

How do I feel being off TRT? Not a lot different except for the libido interest but then again due to my shoulder issues (Replacement) I have not been hitting the gym or doing anything very active for a while. I forget what it's like going to the gym 5x a week and actually training.

[PistolPete33]

No, insurance will not cover so it's out of pocket. The IVF is around $20,000 and there is no guarantee it works so you have to keep paying. The IUI is only around $2k. We are going with the IUI lol

How do I feel being off TRT? Not a lot different except for the libido interest but then again due to my shoulder issues (Replacement) I have not been hitting the gym or doing anything very active for a while. I forget what it's like going to the gym 5x a week and actually training.

When will you be able to get back in the gym? I'm hoping to do things differently this time around with my 2nd hip. The last one I took off nearly a year as the full recovery they wanted you to wait 12 months. I did mostly rehab things and I still have my before picture of when I started back in the gym and I had hardly any muscle at all. They've since changed it so all restrictions are lifted at 6 months. I'm hoping I can get back in the gym 4-6 weeks post surgery and just doing very light upper body and rehab exercises and some mild cardio like the exercise bike which is highly recommended for recovery. I'm hoping to be able to do a cut in the summer and be lean by the end of the summer. Who the hell knows though. I'm hoping she will be pregnant before I need the surgery so I can go back on. haha

[PistolPete33]

Last night I started getting a weird sensation. I feel dizzy and light headed almost like a brain zap. Def. concerned about it. It is better today but def. not 100%. I took some Ibuprofen earlier but it is still lingering. I think I'm going to skip the gym today and just rest for the day. This entire process sucks.

[PistolPete33]

today is day 3 with this weird headache. It is better today than yesterday so that's a good thing but still really annoying. Today is the first day though that I don't have the extreme fatigue. The gym went well this morning and I got in a good workout. Physically I feel pretty good today minus this headache. I'm sure it has something to do with dropping the Clomid or my body going thru some strange change trying to get homeostasis.

[PistolPete33]

I still have a mild headache but it is better. My energy levels are def starting to come back and I don’t have the deep fatigue any longer. My sex drive is really bad though. We haven’t had sex in several days and I don’t even want to. She made a comment last night that I haven’t initiated sex in weeks. I could def do without which obv isn’t good for getting pregnant. The gym is still a bit of a struggle as all my lifts are down considerably. I’m not focused on that as I don’t have any goals right now bc my surgery is coming up. Post surgery my goal will be to lean out and try to regain some of my size.

[PistolPete33]

I feel like I'm starting to recover which is encouraging. My workouts are getting a little better each day. My weight is the same but I've def put on a little bit of fat. Part of this is because I don't have any goals right now with my fitness because of the upcoming surgery. I haven't done much cardio either because my hip has been killing me. My libidio is def. going up so hopefully that continues. Still takes me longer to finish but that is OK so long as I can.

[PistolPete33]

So now I’m having issues sexually. We tried having sex tonight and it wasn’t even remotely happening. My dick wouldn’t get hard no matter what we tried. I’ve never experienced this before and I’m fucking crushed right now. We even got into a fight over it. I said I was just going to go back on and of course she is saying that it is fair she won’t have kids then. This entire fucking process sucks

[vanisle4x4]

So now I’m having issues sexually. We tried having sex tonight and it wasn’t even remotely happening. My dick wouldn’t get hard no matter what we tried. I’ve never experienced this before and I’m fucking crushed right now. We even got into a fight over it. I said I was just going to go back on and of course she is saying that it is fair she won’t have kids then. This entire fucking process sucks

I wish you the best im debating trying to come off after 2 years for preparing for children in the next year or two.

I was on over a year previously and took me a year and half to get normal sex drive back I hope you a much quicker recovery.

Good luck friend.

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[PistolPete33]

I’ve never heard of that before I will look into it. I’m hesitant to take anything right now though bc if she gets pregnant I don’t want to potentially have issues with the baby Bc I was taking something. The only thing I take now is Clomid and Nolva along with Cialis. I’m torn too Bc if she gets pregnant and I go back on and something happens we have to start over. Not sure if it’s worth staying off Lots of things to consider. We are going to try having sex again tonight so hopefully no issues.

Looking into it there is evidence that it can increase sperm count. Hmmmm

Add some longjack. That stuff brings the 'spontaneous boners' to me when I'm on it. To the point of almost being embarrassing.

[PistolPete33]

Wow, a year and a half???? I'm praying I can get her pregnant quickly from here on out. Fingers crossed. Def. don't want this to be a long term thing.

I wish you the best im debating trying to come off after 2 years for preparing for children in the next year or two.

I was on over a year previously and took me a year and half to get normal sex drive back I hope you a much quicker recovery.

Good luck friend.

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[vanisle4x4]

Wow, a year and a half???? I'm praying I can get her pregnant quickly from here on out. Fingers crossed. Def. don't want this to be a long term thing.

It was my body building years and I had heavy use of tren & other chemicals.

Praying for you brother

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[warchild]

Man why torture yourself? Look into HMG. You could even get back on TRT and run HMG.



QUOTE=PistolPete33;7536674]So now I’m having issues sexually. We tried having sex tonight and it wasn’t even remotely happening. My dick wouldn’t get hard no matter what we tried. I’ve never experienced this before and I’m fucking crushed right now. We even got into a fight over it. I said I was just going to go back on and of course she is saying that it is fair she won’t have kids then. This entire fucking process sucks[/QUOTE]

[PistolPete33]

I was originally going to go that route but I was curious how I would feel coming off and wanted to see if it was something I could live with. How I feel now though is not how I want to feel. I’m right about the 6 week mark so I’ve been off for 4 weeks so I’ve been on PCT for 28 days.

Man why torture yourself? Look into HMG. You could even get back on TRT and run HMG.



QUOTE=PistolPete33;7536674]So now I’m having issues sexually. We tried having sex tonight and it wasn’t even remotely happening. My dick wouldn’t get hard no matter what we tried. I’ve never experienced this before and I’m fucking crushed right now. We even got into a fight over it. I said I was just going to go back on and of course she is saying that it is fair she won’t have kids then. This entire fucking process sucks

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[PistolPete33]

This is very encouraging to say the least. I read a ton about it and it seems like what I’ve been missing. I ordered some and it will be here on Thursday. Hopefully it works. If I continue having erection issues I may take a low dose of MT2 as I have it on hand. Hoping this stuff works. Would love to have my libido back

Fertility in men is one of the things it has been studied for. Read up some more on it. It is one of the few OTC supps that I have taken that I can definitely tell when I'm on it. Seriously, in my pre-HRT days, the combination of Longjack and Mucuna Pruriens had me feeling GOOD. Like so good that I remember thinking 'Jesus tap-dancing Christ, if this is what AAS is like, sign my ass up!' Even with HRT, I feel better when I use LJ, well either one really. But LJ definitely puts the (surprise) lead in my pencil.

[PistolPete33]

I forgot to take my Clomid and Nolva last night. Instead of taking it this morning I'm just skipping the day. I feel OK today. Gym was decent. Libido is still way off. The past 4 or 5 days I've woken up without morning wood. Def. concerned about that. My fiancé's period starts in a couple days so that is a good thing. I'm starting on Longjack on Thursday so hopefully within the next week I have some libido back.

I will say too that since my Fiance came off her IUD she has been super moody and her sex drive has dropped considerably. I would have thought the opposite would have happened. She used to want sex daily but now seems to be happy with 2-3 times per week sometimes even less. Def. not productive for making a baby. I have 5 weeks until my surgery so once her period is over I think it is go time. I'm calling a urologist today so hopefully I can get in there quickly but who knows.

[PistolPete33]

I'm definitely leveling off which is encouraging. I'm starting to feel more normal and not tired all the time. The irritability comes and goes but is def. better. I'm not an emotional mess like I was at Christmas time. I've been focusing on more of a pump at the gym so really holding lifts and squeezing to get as much blood to the muscle as possible. This has proven to be a good thing and something I think I've been missing for the past year or so. The last year was all about how much weight I could move and now I don't even care. Do a modest weight but have ultra-Strict form and just isolate the muscle.

My hip has been bothering me a lot lately. Hoping my surgery doesn't get cancelled but who knows.

[PistolPete33]

I'll be interested in seeing what you think of the longjack. Give it a few days...

It literally JUST arrived and like an addict I took my first dose immediately. Lmao. Fingers crossed this is the missing link. How long did it take for you to notice anything with it?

[PistolPete33]

Haha that’s too funny. I remember when I went on TRT and week 3 hit. I couldn’t even focus. Haha. I remember being at the gym looking at the women, not even the hot ones, and feeling like a predator. My wife at the time was not happy because I was constantly initiating sex. Lmao.

[PistolPete33]

We had sex last night. It started out fine no wrection issues and all was good. About 10 or so min on thing started softening up. I was able to finish but wasn’t sure if I was going to or not. Seems to be how it is since being off. Day 2 of Longjack so we shall see how the weekend pans out. Haha

[PistolPete33]

Today is day 4 on Longjack. I woke up with solid wood so I was happy about that. My libido is def. up today. Nothing crazy but def up. Not sure if it is the Longjack, placebo effect, or just a natural change but I will take it. I have bloodwork scheduled for next week and I also meet with my surgeon next week to go over my surgery. UGH.

We had sex last night and no issues getting started at all. I did start going soft again around the 10 minute mark and it was hard to finish. I'm hoping this is temporary. Luckily my fiance has the trick to get me to finish when this happens. haha

The gym was actually really good today too. Strength is up a tiny bit today and I was able to do a lot more. I did extra exercises that I haven't been doing since coming off and stayed longer than I have since being off.

[clarky.]

Sounding good P.

[PistolPete33]

Libido is strong today for the first time since being off. I feel really good today. Hopefully I'm rounding the corner.

[PistolPete33]

Just checking in. I finished up my Nolva so it is only Clomid right now at 50mg/day. I'm debating about switching that to EOD but haven't decided yet. I will prob. keep it the same for this month. It would be ideal to get her pregnant in the next 2 weeks because my surgery is 3 weeks away. Wishful thinking. Not sure how long we will have to go without sex post surgery. I have blood work scheduled for Wednesday morning so I'm very interested to see where that comes out. I feel pretty good overall which is great. We had sex last night and it was awesome. I def. cum way more when I'm not on TRT. I know volume isn't what's most important. I still haven't called the Endo as I just have too much going on before surgery. I figure once I'm on my way to recovery and walking without crutches or a cane then I will call. Libido has been good. Strength in the gym is still down but def. leveled off.

[< <Samson> >]

Keep on keeping on

Fuck, coming off for me would def be a nightmare - just gotta keep the eye on the prize & hope for the best

Try to keep this thread updated, I wanna see how long it’ll take for you to knock er up

Have you tried using a at home sperm count kit? I wonder if there’s a count now

[PistolPete33]

I plan to keep this updated. Could be useful for others that come along and have the same issues. I think it's good to post regularly to discuss my emotions, strength, libido etc. This pas week I've actually felt great. My strength is at a good spot and my libido is mostly all back. We are having sex regularly which is great. Did it first thing this morning and most likely tonight too. haha.

I did have a dentist appointment yesterday to have a tooth extracted and they wouldn't do it because my blood pressure was insanely high. It was 195/90. I've never seen it that high. it "dropped" to 175/80 but still too high. I have a home bp machine so I will check it shortly. I meant to do it first thing this morning. I have my blood work scheduled for tomorrow and my physical on Monday so it will be interesting to see what's going on.

As for the sperm home test I did 2 of them and both came back at not optimal. They don't tell you anything except if you have over 10,000,000 sperm or not. That said, I haven't done that in at least 2 months. I figure if she's not pregnant by the time I have my surgery I will get one after and check it again. I'm hoping I can recover and get her pregnant so I can jump back on.

Keep on keeping on

Fuck, coming off for me would def be a nightmare - just gotta keep the eye on the prize & hope for the best

Try to keep this thread updated, I wanna see how long it’ll take for you to knock er up

Have you tried using a at home sperm count kit? I wonder if there’s a count now

[lovbyts]

I meant to update my progress a few days ago but got distracted with work.

I went in for my sperm extraction 1/14/2021. Wasnt bad at all once you get past being exposed to the world or at least anyone who happens to be present in the room which is the doctor plus 2 or 3 others not counting your spouse if she wants to be there. Mine way.

I wouldnt say it was fun having someone manipulating your privates without so much as a dinner or wine first and then sticking a needle in your testicles a few times to extract semen. There was no pain to speak of, they did a great job numbing everything and only felt a slight pinch/poke less than doing HRT with a .27 needle and about 30 minutes later it was done. Lots of talking and the doctor constantly asking if I was OK and if there was any pain. Nope, nothing.

Of course they tell you to go home, put your feet up for 2 days and use an ice pack for 15 minutes at a time several times for the next 2 days. Yeah right, that never works out for me. I had my feet up for about 2 minutes when the guys showed up to fix my busted main water service line from the meter to my house so I was outside with them for the next 2 hrs. Then the person showed up to give me a quote to take out and re insulate my crawlspace under the house and was there the next 1hr+ Im not sure what happened after that but I know I never got a chance to relax until it was bedtime and never once used ice. Next day I felt a little tenderness, like someone had kicked me in the ground a few days prior and it was just the residual ache, not bad. one side of the testicles was very black from bruising and a little tender to the tough but again not bad at all.

Now for the results. After being on TRT for almost 15 years and having a vasectomy done over 15 years ago when removing a Vermaticle and multiple surgeries since then. The lab technician who was in the room testing the sperm reported he saw live swimmers.

My post opt report shows they are not quite at the normal/active level considered optimal but still not bad and viable.

The only thing I did was to stop TRT and use Clomid 50mg every other day. Im happy to report Im done with the clomid and started my TRT again. Cant wait for the libido to get back to where it should be. I never really experienced any mood swings but have always been pretty good at keeping emotions in check for the most part.

[lovbyts]

When will you be able to get back in the gym? I'm hoping to do things differently this time around with my 2nd hip. The last one I took off nearly a year as the full recovery they wanted you to wait 12 months. I did mostly rehab things and I still have my before picture of when I started back in the gym and I had hardly any muscle at all. They've since changed it so all restrictions are lifted at 6 months. I'm hoping I can get back in the gym 4-6 weeks post surgery and just doing very light upper body and rehab exercises and some mild cardio like the exercise bike which is highly recommended for recovery. I'm hoping to be able to do a cut in the summer and be lean by the end of the summer. Who the hell knows though. I'm hoping she will be pregnant before I need the surgery so I can go back on. haha

As far as getting back into the gym??? I had everything set to do my shoulder replacement January 28th. My coworker who works remotely the last 6+ months was supposed to be coming into the office to cover for me decided to get sick a few days ago and only went to the doctor today even though his brother and sister inlaw were sick last week and tested positive for Covid. We work nights, 8pm - 8am and it's a limited access area so not just anyone can do it.

I had to postpone my surgery, again (was supposed to be last March but again Covid...) and it's scheduled for March 11. Obviously there will be a few months of PT before I can do anything on my own in the way of training. Hopefully before 2022...

[< <Samson> >]

Dang, that’s some BP man

This is the highest I have ever seen - this is the day I was diagnosed with my hemorrhage



GL man - sometimes that’s what seems to help the most

[PistolPete33]

Damn def. not fun. I checked it on my own yesterday and it was 135/80 but today it was super high again 164/98. I'm going to check it in a little bit. Today was a REALLY tough day for me though. I did blood work this morning and just had anxiety all day long.

Dang, that’s some BP man

This is the highest I have ever seen - this is the day I was diagnosed with my hemorrhage



GL man - sometimes that’s what seems to help the most

[PistolPete33]

I was going to send you a PM to see how it went. I'm glad it went well. Do they think they can get one of those swimmers to make a baby? I'm excited for you. I can't wait to see where I'm at. Def. don't want to be off too long.

I meant to update my progress a few days ago but got distracted with work.

I went in for my sperm extraction 1/14/2021. Wasnt bad at all once you get past being exposed to the world or at least anyone who happens to be present in the room which is the doctor plus 2 or 3 others not counting your spouse if she wants to be there. Mine way.

I wouldnt say it was fun having someone manipulating your privates without so much as a dinner or wine first and then sticking a needle in your testicles a few times to extract semen. There was no pain to speak of, they did a great job numbing everything and only felt a slight pinch/poke less than doing HRT with a .27 needle and about 30 minutes later it was done. Lots of talking and the doctor constantly asking if I was OK and if there was any pain. Nope, nothing.

Of course they tell you to go home, put your feet up for 2 days and use an ice pack for 15 minutes at a time several times for the next 2 days. Yeah right, that never works out for me. I had my feet up for about 2 minutes when the guys showed up to fix my busted main water service line from the meter to my house so I was outside with them for the next 2 hrs. Then the person showed up to give me a quote to take out and re insulate my crawlspace under the house and was there the next 1hr+ Im not sure what happened after that but I know I never got a chance to relax until it was bedtime and never once used ice. Next day I felt a little tenderness, like someone had kicked me in the ground a few days prior and it was just the residual ache, not bad. one side of the testicles was very black from bruising and a little tender to the tough but again not bad at all.

Now for the results. After being on TRT for almost 15 years and having a vasectomy done over 15 years ago when removing a Vermaticle and multiple surgeries since then. The lab technician who was in the room testing the sperm reported he saw live swimmers.

My post opt report shows they are not quite at the normal/active level considered optimal but still not bad and viable.

The only thing I did was to stop TRT and use Clomid 50mg every other day. Im happy to report Im done with the clomid and started my TRT again. Cant wait for the libido to get back to where it should be. I never really experienced any mood swings but have always been pretty good at keeping emotions in check for the most part.

[< <Samson> >]

Damn def. not fun. I checked it on my own yesterday and it was 135/80 but today it was super high again 164/98. I'm going to check it in a little bit. Today was a REALLY tough day for me though. I did blood work this morning and just had anxiety all day long.

For me, when my BP was/is insanely high - I can’t even notice a difference < that’s the scary part

I seen when they took the reading & just thought wtf


Yeah, keeping our cool at times sure seems to be quite more difficult than it sounds

[Test Monsterone]

For me, when my BP was/is insanely high - I can’t even notice a difference < that’s the scary part

I seen when they took the reading & just thought wtf


Yeah, keeping our cool at times sure seems to be quite more difficult than it sounds

Yup. I had times I felt agitated and full of anxiety and my bp was 116/70 heart rate 50. Other times in chillin and it’s 150.

[PistolPete33]

I met with my surgeon today. He said everything is a go for my surgery and he doesn't expect any issues. Def. nervous about it esp with it being so close. He said I should be walking unassisted at the 6 week mark so that isn't too bad. I will be walking with crutches, then one crutch, and then a cane. They wanted me to us a walker instead of crutches but I told them my ego wouldn't allow for that. haha