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    HCG injection

    Can anyone confirm what 250iu is on an insulin syringe? From the stickies on how much to inject it says:

    https://forums.steroid.com/hormone-r...ould-know.html

    "When using an insulin syringe, each unit (line) on the scale of the syringe equals 25IU's of hCG . 250IU’s of hCG is then 10 units on the side of the insulin syringe."

    So I'm reading this as the 20 mark on the syringe when I add up each line(25iu) to get up to 250iu

    But in this HCG injection video its showing up to the 25 mark on the syringe (1/4) for 250iu

    https://www.steroid.com/profiles-video/hcg2.mp4

    Also... Does syringe length and gauge matter for HCG? I'm currently using a 1ml insulin syringe, 6mm length, 31g

    Thanks!
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    How many units you have in the vial and how much water you add to it. Those are the two variables you need. It is basic ratios after that.

    Exapmle: 5000 iu hcg with 2 ml water gives you 2500iu hcg per ml.

    Do not confuse iu of hcg with iu of reconstituted solution. This is where people get lost.

    Anyhow, in this example 1ml = 2500 iu hcg. 1/10ml gives you 250iu hcg per dose. Multiply or divide as appropriate in your case.
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    In other words, what is considered 250iu of hcg all depends on the ratio of water to hcg. There is no clear answer without knowing those two variables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    In other words, what is considered 250iu of hcg all depends on the ratio of water to hcg. There is no clear answer without knowing those two variables.
    This is what I'm using, 5000iu with I'm guessing is maybe 2ml of pre-mesured water??

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    Nope that's 1 ml sodium chloride. Says it on the label.
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    If you mix them together and pull all the liquid into a needle... you will see how many mil it is. The whole liquid is 5000 IU, half of it is 2500 IU and so on. You have to use a little 3rd grade math. If you have 1 mil, then 01 is 500 IU. 250 IU is so small its kinda hard to measure it

    If you split the liquid in half ; Then 1/10 of the half is 250 IU if that makes sence
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    How many units you have in the vial and how much water you add to it. Those are the two variables you need. It is basic ratios after that.

    Exapmle: 5000 iu hcg with 2 ml water gives you 2500iu hcg per ml.

    Do not confuse iu of hcg with iu of reconstituted solution. This is where people get lost.

    Anyhow, in this example 1ml = 2500 iu hcg. 1/10ml gives you 250iu hcg per dose. Multiply or divide as appropriate in your case.
    OK so based on that ya its 2500iu constituted. But my question is, what's 250iu on a 100iu syringe? In the stickies I'm understanding it 20 units... On the video its saying 25...

    My guess is 25 units so just making sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjsevens View Post
    OK so based on that ya its 2500iu constituted. But my question is, what's 250iu on a 100iu syringe? In the stickies I'm understanding it 20 units... On the video its saying 25...

    My guess is 25 units so just making sure.
    I don't think I'm being clear. Let's work with your particular numbers.

    Looks like you have 5000iu hcg and 1 ml water.

    If you put that 1 ml water with the 5000iu hcg, you will have a vial with 1ml water in it, and that water will have 5000iu of hcg in it.

    Let's consider kool-aid for a minute. If you have 10 ounces of water, and then you add 2 ounces of Kool aid, you don't magically have 12 ounces. You still have 10 ounces of water that is blended with 2 ounces of kool-aid.

    If you wanted to consume 1 ounce of kool-aid, you could say, hmm I know there are two ounces in there, so how much do I need to pull out?

    1 ounce / 2 ounces total = 1/2
    You need half the container
    One half of 10 is 5, so you could drink 5 ounces of the (reconstituted) mixture and know that you are getting 1 ounce of kool-aid.

    You have 5000iu and 1 ml. You want a dose of 250iu per shot, so,

    250/5000 = 25 / 500 = 5 / 100

    We know that there are 100 units in 1 ml. We also know from that last math that 250iu dose needs 5 hundredths of the total hcg. The total hcg is in 1 ml of water, so we know we need 5 hundredths of an ml aka 5 units of solution.

    For a 250 dose, with the math above, draw to the 05 mark.

    Yes that is a tiny amount and difficult with a 1 ml syringe. Get some .3 ml syringes and life gets easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    I don't think I'm being clear. Let's work with your particular numbers.

    Looks like you have 5000iu hcg and 1 ml water.

    If you put that 1 ml water with the 5000iu hcg, you will have a vial with 1ml water in it, and that water will have 5000iu of hcg in it.

    Let's consider kool-aid for a minute. If you have 10 ounces of water, and then you add 2 ounces of Kool aid, you don't magically have 12 ounces. You still have 10 ounces of water that is blended with 2 ounces of kool-aid.

    If you wanted to consume 1 ounce of kool-aid, you could say, hmm I know there are two ounces in there, so how much do I need to pull out?

    1 ounce / 2 ounces total = 1/2
    You need half the container
    One half of 10 is 5, so you could drink 5 ounces of the (reconstituted) mixture and know that you are getting 1 ounce of kool-aid.

    You have 5000iu and 1 ml. You want a dose of 250iu per shot, so,

    250/5000 = 25 / 500 = 5 / 100

    We know that there are 100 units in 1 ml. We also know from that last math that 250iu dose needs 5 hundredths of the total hcg. The total hcg is in 1 ml of water, so we know we need 5 hundredths of an ml aka 5 units of solution.

    For a 250 dose, with the math above, draw to the 05 mark.

    Yes that is a tiny amount and difficult with a 1 ml syringe. Get some .3 ml syringes and life gets easy.
    Thanks man, I'm math retarded so I literally needed that spelled out lol!

    So looks like I was taking WAY too much, basically 500iu every mon-wed-fri :/

    Last question on the syringe, what about the needle length and gauge? There are so many different sizes, why so many different kinds, is it just preference?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjsevens View Post
    Thanks man, I'm math retarded so I literally needed that spelled out lol!

    So looks like I was taking WAY too much, basically 500iu every mon-wed-fri :/

    Last question on the syringe, what about the needle length and gauge? There are so many different sizes, why so many different kinds, is it just preference?
    Lots of different kinds because the vendors saw a marketing opportunity!

    Only (mostly) kidding there. I think it does come down to preference and compound.

    Pretty much all water based substances (hcg , hgh, peps), I use a 30g 8mm pin. I have used 6mm as well and it works for me. You don't need a harpoon to pass water.

    I DO like the previously mentioned .30ml syringes, some of these have half unit markings. That is probably more precise than we typically need, but can be a nice touch when trying to dial in a particular pep.
    Something like the link below, though I haven't used that particular brand. I like BD and Brandzig, but that is usually just preference.

    https://www.amazon.com/BH-Supplies-I.../dp/B08F4LQ26H
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    Cyclon pretty much covered it, but I’ll just add that a good way to make it easier to measure units is to add more bac water. I don’t mix my HCG in anything less than 5 mL.

    My HCG has come in both liquid and powdered form. If it’s a 5,000 IU bottle and it comes with 1 mL of water or is already mixed in water, then I’d add 4 mL of water to make it 5 mL total.

    At 5000 units / 5 mL, that’s 1000 units per mL. This makes it easy because each .10 mL on the 1 mL syringe is 100 units. I usually go to the .4 mark to get 400 units.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    Cyclon pretty much covered it, but I’ll just add that a good way to make it easier to measure units is to add more bac water. I don’t mix my HCG in anything less than 5 mL.

    My HCG has come in both liquid and powdered form. If it’s a 5,000 IU bottle and it comes with 1 mL of water or is already mixed in water, then I’d add 4 mL of water to make it 5 mL total.

    At 5000 units / 5 mL, that’s 1000 units per mL. This makes it easy because each .10 mL on the 1 mL syringe is 100 units. I usually go to the .4 mark to get 400 units.
    This is a good way to keep the math easy. Working with a 10 to 1 ratio or 100 to 1 or even 1000 to 1 is easier than working with some crazy number like 187 to 2.77. That last is a made up number, but it illustrates the point.

    As an example, I like a blend of BPC-157 and TB-500, that is 3mg / 7mg.... That makes things more confusing, because now there are TWO ratios to try to figure out. I keep it simple and solve for one, and let the other fall where it may.

    In this case, I think "hmm, dur dee dur, I like boobies. Oh and also, I want to inject 1mg of TB-500 daily in a single shot. What is going to make that easy? And what will my BPC dose be?"

    That gives me a couple of pieces of info. First, I want to do one shot with 1mg and some amount of BPC. Since there is 7mg in the vial, I know that I will have 7 shots in the vial.

    Using that 10 to 1 ratio above, and knowing I want 7 shots, I add 70iu of bacstat to the vial. That gives me, in the vial, 7mg of TB-500 in 70iu of water. Doing some simple math, that means I need to draw 10iu of solution to get my 1mg dose of TB-500.

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    Oh and to add to that, the BPC-157 calculation is secondary, but easy to solve.

    We know there are 3mg of BPC-157 in the vial, and we will be administering 7 shots from the vial. The first step for the math in this case involves converting mgs to mcgs, which is simple:

    3mg = 3000mcg

    And then it becomes more meaningful to do the math on BPC-157. Simple division gives us:

    3000mcg / 7 shots = 428.6 mcg BPC-157 per shot.

    Thus each shot of this 7/3 blend gives me 1mg TB-500 and almost 430 mcg of BPC-157.

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