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    Pcp and trt

    So i went to see my pcp today to try and get trt. Yeh that went over as good as a whore in a church.

    Took my labs with me that had my test# but no free test#. She asked me what "symptoms" have I been having that makes me think I need test. I said aside from my low level, I have brain fog, hard to lose weight, harder to gain muscle, libido lacking slightly blah blah blah. Told her I crash in the afternoons when I get home but my day starts at 345 am. This bitch tells me " based on what you explained to me I think you have sleep apnea." Wait what ? Sleep apnea? So now I need to get a SA test done. She also tells me that they dont prescribe TRT and that I need to see a Urologist because its can be very dangerous and its a liability. Im looking at this woman thinking to myself, you really dont know shit other than what you were taught and what you read in your 10 years of school. So now I need to get me free test checked.

    If my total test is 205 what are the odds of my free test being higher or even lower than the total test? She also said I dont need to fast but i thought it was best to get blood work done while in a fast? Im new to all this so bare with me if some of my info is wrong.

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    Primary care docs, when it comes to TRT, fall into 1 of 3 categories:

    1 - not quite worthless
    2 - worthless
    3 - insanely worthless

    Most land in 2 or 3. That's just the way it is.

    Assuming that the scale for total t has a low end of 250, that would normally be enough to trigger TRT for most PCPs. Free T will always be numerically lower than total T, but free t could still be in range.

    The doc ain't wrong, exactly, about needing free t, but that should have been ordered with the total.

    Be consistent on timing with blood work. That is, get it at the same time of day. Fasting doesn't matter unless they are testing glucose, and maybe thyroid numbers, but I can't remember for sure on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    Primary care docs range, when it comes to TRT, fall into 1 of 3 categories:

    1 - not quite worthless
    2 - worthless
    3 - insanely worthless

    Most land in 2 or 3. That's just the way it is.

    Assuming that the scale for total t has a low end of 250, that would normally be enough to trigger TRT for most PCPs. Free T was always be numerically lower than total T, but free t could still be in range.

    The doc ain't wrong, exactly, about needing free t, but that should have been ordered with the total.

    Be consistent on timing with blood work. That is, get it at the same time of day. Fasting doesn't matter unless they are testing glucose, and maybe thyroid numbers, but I can't remember for sure on that.
    I'll add class 3a.

    I drug my Dr from once monthly injections to two week injections to weekly injections to a 200mg/week self injections; all based on lab work.

    I only attempted it because I was trying to keep all of my numerous health problems in one location except for the speciality stuff.

    I do NOT recommend that route to most people.
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    Ha ha!

    Well put

    Yup, most PCP are just like that

    Amazingly enough when mine seen blood work of total test under 250, she actually agreed to put me on trt - with 200mg cyp injections every other week. She did try to send me to an endocrinologist - but, I’m like - lady, I got nothin. My dick don’t work & I feel like ass - this was two months of coming off & running Clomid for a month(me & the wife we’re trying to have another kid - that didn’t workout as planned) so trt it is

    Shit, hearing that tho def puts my pcp into the #1 on the list.

    Now since I’m getting it at an aight price, I’ll try my best to get her to get me to 1ml(200mg) per week
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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    Ha ha!

    Well put

    Yup, most PCP are just like that

    Amazingly enough when mine seen blood work of total test under 250, she actually agreed to put me on trt - with 200mg cyp injections every other week. She did try to send me to an endocrinologist - but, I’m like - lady, I got nothin. My dick don’t work & I feel like ass - this was two months of coming off & running Clomid for a month(me & the wife we’re trying to have another kid - that didn’t workout as planned) so trt it is

    Shit, hearing that tho def puts my pcp into the #1 on the list.

    Now since I’m getting it at an aight price, I’ll try my best to get her to get me to 1ml(200mg) per week
    I tested once when I was at my lowest sexually and mentally... My number was 178. Her response, well maybe try a test booster from GNC

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    Thanks for the info gents, yeh the clinic didnt order a free test only total which was 205 first thing in the AM. She made it very clear in so many words that she wants no parts of it and couldn't prescribe it even if she wanted to. ( Dont know how true that is)

    Now I have to go get my free T checked and follow up with a urologist. <<------ that doesnt make sense to me but what do i know. I talked to my wife and Im going to go through the clinic that ordered the labs originally. 230.00 a month or i can pay 1000 ish for 6 month supply. I dont understand why its so difficult to get this stuff when it is medically known that our test drops over time and the benefits of it far out way any risks as long as its monitored correctly.

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    Find another doctor. This time one with testicals. Seriously.
    Title doesn't matter as long as they understand hormones and don't treat you like a number on a chart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Find another doctor. This time one with testicals. Seriously.
    Title doesn't matter as long as they understand hormones and don't treat you like a number on a chart.
    Yeh I hear ya, i just dont want to dr hop ya know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by micparks View Post
    Yeh I hear ya, i just dont want to dr hop ya know.
    One of the many online clinics an option? Most are around 100 bucks a month for 200mg a week, syringes and an AI. Could always go that route in the meantime
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fresh2death View Post
    One of the many online clinics an option? Most are around 100 bucks a month for 200mg a week, syringes and an AI. Could always go that route in the meantime
    That also includes blood tests typically which is a safe route to get dialed in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fresh2death View Post
    One of the many online clinics an option? Most are around 100 bucks a month for 200mg a week, syringes and an AI. Could always go that route in the meantime
    which one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by micparks View Post
    which one?
    Am I allowed to shill some mods?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Find another doctor. This time one with testicals. Seriously.
    Title doesn't matter as long as they understand hormones and don't treat you like a number on a chart.
    well im going through a clinic. My insurance covers 70% of my OOP expense so I just got ordered my shit. 240.00 up front and insurance will send me a check for 168.00. Then when my six months runs out Ill pay cash so its 1050.00 for another 6 months and Ill get back 700 from insurance so im happy with all that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fresh2death View Post
    Am I allowed to shill some mods?
    if you can share, ill def look into them after my 6 months runs out!!

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    Geez guys, I feel lucky now with my 200mg every other week

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fresh2death View Post
    Am I allowed to shill some mods?
    As far as I know, you can post the name of the TRT clinics....i.e. Defy Medical, Peter Uncaged, Royal Medical, etc.

    Just don't post any of their contact information. That way they aren't getting free advertising off of the owner of the site.

    If someone wants the contact information, they can use the name and search Google or whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    Geez guys, I feel lucky now with my 200mg every other week
    If you aren't already, I'd split that up in 2x weekly injections. That should pull your trough level up some.

    I'd still try for an increased dosage though. It never hurts to have a little extra stashed back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    As far as I know, you can post the name of the TRT clinics....i.e. Defy Medical, Peter Uncaged, Royal Medical, etc.

    Just don't post any of their contact information. That way they aren't getting free advertising off of the owner of the site.

    If someone wants the contact information, they can use the name and search Google or whatever.
    Yep. That's pretty much all I was gonna do!
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    If you aren't already, I'd split that up in 2x weekly injections. That should pull your trough level up some.

    I'd still try for an increased dosage though. It never hurts to have a little extra stashed back.
    I’ve tried one ML out to see if there was a difference from my UGL Sust 350 - I broke the ML up into two preloaded syringes

    I guess it’s less painful - I guess

    All the rest I’m just stashing - y not. . . I never liked single long esters for my self prescribed trt. . . I’ll run the HG cyp right prior to next blood work she makes me do tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    I’ve tried one ML out to see if there was a difference from my UGL Sust 350 - I broke the ML up into two preloaded syringes

    I guess it’s less painful - I guess

    All the rest I’m just stashing - y not. . . I never liked single long esters for my self prescribed trt. . . I’ll run the HG cyp right prior to next blood work she makes me do tho
    When it's not close to time to do her blood work, try mixing a little prop in with your cyp since you don't like single esters.
    Defy Medical prescribes a 160mg/ml cyp and 40mg/ml prop. I stumbled across a little of it that was available and really liked the combo.
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    My sustanon seems to do me well, I add prop sometimes for a little boost. But, my prop supply is kinda low atm.

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