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    June 2023 - Latest blood work

    OK, so I am slowly dialing in the precise doses for my HRT. This blood work was from June 16.

    In short, looking good with a couple of issues.

    Protocol
    140mg Test C per week (2x subq .28ml)
    750 to 800 iu HCG (250 to 300iu MWF evenings)

    100mcg Levothyroxine (T4)
    5mcg Liothyrinine (T3)
    25mg daily Proviron (12.5mg x2 per day)
    50 to 60mcg Finasteride nightly (on that for one month prior to bloods)
    1.2iu HGH daily AM (for one month prior to bloods)

    That's it.

    Blood work was drawn Friday morning, where my previous injection had been Monday morning. So, this was at a true trough, that is, I was due for my next injection Friday morning, but held off until blood was drawn to inject. Previous HCG injection was Wednesday evening, I believe.

    The Test C is from PharmCom, Proviron is EP, the HCG is Zyhcg. Thyroid meds are prescribed, as is the finasteride, though I did make my own liquid with rum. HGH is ZPTrope, 12iu vial, and I do 1.2iu in the mornings.


    Summary
    All systems look good except estrogen. Note that the doc pulls the estrogen panel, then I pull estradiol sensitive. Still need to talk with him about that. I ran no AI, and the proviron normally does a good job of control for my TRT dose, BUT I introduced the finasteride, which was successful in keeping my DHT reasonable. That led to more free test and estrogen.

    My IGF is up from 90 or so, so I call that good. I did inject my HGH about 1 hour before blood draw.

    PSA has not moved yet, though Free % is good, so no real concerns there. I did expect total PSA to come down some in time, as long as the fina is in the loop.

    Note that they now include some REALLY detailed cholesterol readings that look a little red, but the standard numbers look awesome.

    Next steps
    I will introduce an AI for a short time to bring down my estrogen. It feels like it is too high right now, libido not perfect, a bit softer than I should be. I have a mini-blast planned to start next week (for a cut), details on that elsewhere. The compounds in the blast should do a good job managing estrogen for the 16 weeks or so I will be blasting.

    I may have found the right for me TRT protocol, so that is cool. I will continue to keep an eye on PSA, DHT, and estrogen in particular.

    Comments, questions, etc are appreciated!

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    Nice. What has contributed to your higher free test number? Is that the proviron alone?

    Trying to remember what mine was last time..my test was around 800. but free test not that high if I remember.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teedoff View Post
    Nice. What has contributed to your higher free test number? Is that the proviron alone?

    Trying to remember what mine was last time..my test was around 800. but free test not that high if I remember.
    In part the proviron, but also the finasteride. The fina prevents the conversion of t into dht, thus allowing more to go to free t and estrogen.
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    Numbers look really good. I'd leave E2 alone. Always better high than low as long as there's no libido or gyno issues. Hell, estrogen is anabolic . The more detailed chol panel is interesting. Reminded me of an older thread you may find interesting. Before you landed here.

    https://forums.steroid.com/hormone-r...xperiment.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Numbers look really good. I'd leave E2 alone. Always better high than low as long as there's no libido or gyno issues. Hell, estrogen is anabolic . The more detailed chol panel is interesting. Reminded me of an older thread you may find interesting. Before you landed here.

    https://forums.steroid.com/hormone-r...xperiment.html
    Yeah that cholesterol panel confused me. Never seen some of those results. Cy, who did your labs? Local dr or online? Speaking of which, I need to have my cholesterol panel pulled. Been since Thanksgiving after donating blood. Ugh. Probably need to donate again now....never ends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Numbers look really good. I'd leave E2 alone. Always better high than low as long as there's no libido or gyno issues. Hell, estrogen is anabolic . The more detailed chol panel is interesting. Reminded me of an older thread you may find interesting. Before you landed here.

    https://forums.steroid.com/hormone-r...xperiment.html
    Libido is slightly down, thus the plan to nudge (not nuke) estrogen down some.

    I will peep that other thread. I wonder if the more detailed numbers are response from the insurance companies to more tightly control TRT? Don't know, I haven't looked into it yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teedoff View Post
    Yeah that cholesterol panel confused me. Never seen some of those results. Cy, who did your labs? Local dr or online? Speaking of which, I need to have my cholesterol panel pulled. Been since Thanksgiving after donating blood. Ugh. Probably need to donate again now....never ends.
    The doc ordered the cholesterol, but it looked pretty standard to me, at least on paper. I order from ultalabtests almost exclusively now, and I think the same thing is their "advanced lipid panel".

    All bloods were drawn at Quest. They are kind of used to me coming in with two orders...

    Oh, and I donated yesterday, not because the blood work indicated a need. Blood banks are rarely over stocked, and I have a mini-blast starting Monday that will increase RBC so just call me both a) a good citizen and b) preemptively prepping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Numbers look really good. I'd leave E2 alone. Always better high than low as long as there's no libido or gyno issues. Hell, estrogen is anabolic . The more detailed chol panel is interesting. Reminded me of an older thread you may find interesting. Before you landed here.

    https://forums.steroid.com/hormone-r...xperiment.html
    Also, love the Young Frankenstein reference in that thread! I just referenced "Abby... somebody" a few days ago in conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylon357 View Post
    The doc ordered the cholesterol, but it looked pretty standard to me, at least on paper. I order from ultalabtests almost exclusively now, and I think the same thing is their "advanced lipid panel".

    All bloods were drawn at Quest. They are kind of used to me coming in with two orders...

    Oh, and I donated yesterday, not because the blood work indicated a need. Blood banks are rarely over stocked, and I have a mini-blast starting Monday that will increase RBC so just call me both a) a good citizen and b) preemptively prepping.
    Just as an FYI, I donated on Thursday afternoon and on Saturday 3pm I got an email saying my blood was already being put to use. I am O+, so fairly common, but really underscores the need for blood in the area.

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