Test and ED

**Warrior1700** · 05-02-2009, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by Testomaster

Part of your test. has been converted in estradiol , as blood test showed , and another part could be strongly binded to SHBG.

SHBG is checked by blood.

Before going to any urologist-psychologist-vascular specialist you have to fix your hormonal situation first.

If you mind about sex drive more than muscle growth my suggestion is to stop anything (since u said that the add. of AI didn't work ) and do like this :

1 to 8 week
MON-WED-FRI : 2000 IU HCG + 50 mg. Proviron every day + 0.50 Arimidex twice a week.

9 to 16 week
50 mg. Clomid every day + 50 mg. Proviron every day + 0.25 Arimidex twice a week.

In case this cycle won't help you must consider the possibility that your problem is not hormonal .

So do I ask for SHGB test specifically, or is it part of my overall blood work?

I don't know if the Arimidex is working, I just started it @ .5 every 3 days.

And it really not about my "sex drive"..its more about keeping wood throughout and finishing... I am not able to finish most times,and loose wood during. I want to and get great wood for awhile(with Viagra) and then lose it after awhile witout finishing. Could be a total psycological issue, since at times , I can rub one out with little or no problem..

Hormonal is an Endo correct. the Dr. I am seeing is more if a vitality guy and not sure if he is all that in tuned to the fine tuning of this HRT/Muscle building endeavor. He is reather liberal with the therapy.

Is Proviron had by prescription and if not...well. PM me.?

**Testomaster** · 05-02-2009, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by Warrior1700

So do I ask for SHGB test specifically, or is it part of my overall blood work?

I don't know if the Arimidex is working, I just started it @ .5 every 3 days.

And it really not about my "sex drive"..its more about keeping wood throughout and finishing... I am not able to finish most times,and loose wood during. I want to and get great wood for awhile(with Viagra) and then lose it after awhile witout finishing. Could be a total psycological issue, since at times , I can rub one out with little or no problem..

This is a typical sign of psycological issue ...IMO ormonal issue is about no sex drive and no erection at all ....from beginning to the end.

**Triple Stack** · 05-03-2009, 05:21 PM

I think you might be on to something about the psychological issue. In my experience when I was about 21, I ended my very first cycle of Anadrol 50 with no PCT (didn't know about it!). I must've had my natural test crash after stopping the juice, and could not "finish off" with a couple dates I had picked up. It was very embarrassing & for about a year or so I had a "mental block" that I would not be able to finish, and lo & behold it was like a self-fulfilled prophecy. Only when I met a girl in college that didn't care that much about, and who slobbed my knob and wouldn't let me away without finishing, did I finally have my breakthrough!!! We humped happily ever after for a year & then I moved on, to other ladies & more cycles...

I guess what I'm trying to say is that your problem most likely started from something real and still may be the case but the power of the mind may have also taken over. I kind of know how you feel, it was a brutal time for me when that was going on and I was young & afraid to see a doctor or tell anyone. Oh, and by the way I was able to masturbate no problem also...and often when the date was over in those dark times I would go & furiously beat my meat while cursing, "what've I done to myself with the juice??!!!"

Hang in there & look into some psychotherapy too as an alternative. Maybe your doc can refer someone so it's covered by insurance.

**therecanonlybe1** · 05-04-2009, 06:47 AM

they don't call it Deca dick for nothing..i'm sure somebody alreay said it, just don't feel like looking ..

**alpmaster** · 05-04-2009, 07:23 AM

Might be psychological as well. When I had a break up with a 3 year relationship, I got in bed with another girl about a week later. I just could not get hard. I'd be able to when doing it doggy style, but if I saw her face I just couldn't do it. Haha, she wasn't ugly, in fact gorgeous, but I guess I just was so used to seeing my ex's face. I reeeally thought something was wrong with me and it would always psyche me out after that for about a month. Anyway, I got over it and more comfortable and then everything went back to normal, and she's my current girlfriend ever since. Moral of the story, don't rule out a psychological issue.

If you beat your meat, is everthing ok?

**Warrior1700** · 05-05-2009, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by Triple Stack

Oh, and by the way I was able to masturbate no problem also...and often when the date was over in those dark times I would go & furiously beat my meat while cursing, "what've I done to myself with the juice??!!!"

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Yea, that is so me the next morning....just to bust. Lol Uggggg

**Warrior1700** · 05-05-2009, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by therecanonlybe1

they don't call it Deca dick for nothing..i'm sure somebody alreay said it, just don't feel like looking ..

Yea, I cut out the deca for 6 or 7 weeks now...No change.

**Warrior1700** · 05-05-2009, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by alpmaster

If you beat your meat, is everthing ok?

Most of the time...Once in awhile that doesnt work, but Most of the time yes.

**Testomaster** · 05-05-2009, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by Testomaster

Part of your test. has been converted in estradiol , as blood test showed , and another part could be strongly binded to SHBG.

SHBG is checked by blood.

Before going to any urologist-psychologist-vascular specialist you have to fix your hormonal situation first.

If you mind about sex drive more than muscle growth my suggestion is to stop anything (since u said that the add. of AI didn't work ) and do like this :

1 to 8 week
MON-WED-FRI : 2000 IU HCG + 50 mg. Proviron every day + 0.50 Arimidex twice a week.

9 to 16 week
50 mg. Clomid every day + 50 mg. Proviron every day + 0.25 Arimidex twice a week.

In case this cycle won't help you must consider the possibility that your problem is not hormonal .

Sorry just now I noticed a mistake in writing about duration of the PCT.

it is 1 to 4 week
MON-WED-FRI : 2000 IU HCG + 50 mg. Proviron every day + 0.50 Arimidex twice a week.

and 5 to 9 week
50 mg. Clomid every day + 50 mg. Proviron every day + 0.25 Arimidex twice a week.

to myself...

**Warrior1700** · 05-09-2009, 09:10 AM

Ok, so I went to a Urologist. He said physically Im ok, and he wasnt any concerned about the TEST.(see below) He diagnosed totally phycological. Since Viagra gets me hard but sometimes loosing it, he feels with my history it's not physical at all. He did say something to me though that is bothering me. He said that my testes are atrophied some and that using exogenous test will cause intertility. Talk about psycological distress.....NOw what?? Does HCG help with bringing back out testes?

**zaggahamma** · 05-09-2009, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by Warrior1700

Ok, so I went to a Urologist. He said physically Im ok, and he wasnt any concerned about the TEST.(see below) He diagnosed totally phycological. Since Viagra gets me hard but sometimes loosing it, he feels with my history it's not physical at all. He did say something to me though that is bothering me. He said that my testes are atrophied some and that using exogenous test will cause intertility. Talk about psycological distress.....NOw what?? Does HCG help with bringing back out testes?

yes hcg is supposed to bring the boys back

**Warrior1700** · 05-11-2009, 09:47 AM

What about the infertility issue?

**Testomaster** · 05-11-2009, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by Warrior1700

What about the infertility issue?

This could be a problem....

**Warrior1700** · 05-11-2009, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by Testomaster

This could be a problem....

Gee thanks....Lol

**Warrior1700** · 05-27-2009, 09:06 AM

Update...here are the blood results from the urologist. Different looking panel than I am used to seeing.

Also, I got a script for HCG form my other Doc, gonna start it next week, 500IUs 2x a week sound ok? I have 10,000 total.

Blood work.

FSH <0.4 Range 0.7-11.1 mlU/mL
LH <0.5 Range 0.8-7.6 mlU/mL
Prolactin 8.0 Range 1.6-18.7 ng/mL
SHBG 11 Range 13-71 nmol/L
Test 553 Range 225-972 ng/dL
FR.TEST.CALC 54.3 Range 12.0-25.0 pg/mL
TSM(3rd GEN.) 1.65 Range 0.50-4.60 uu/mL
TT4 6.1 Range 4.5-12.0 ug/dL
T-Uptake 39 Range 24-35 %

I think all the measurement units are correct, kinda hard to read my copy, but Im sure all you science goo roos understand em...lol

Any input would be greatly appreciated. I have not seen the Urol since I got these, not supposed to for awhile as he said it it no a physical problem.

**Warrior1700** · 05-28-2009, 12:21 PM

Bump

**Warrior1700** · 05-29-2009, 09:07 AM

Still looking for some insight on these latest numbers...thanks

**CHAP** · 05-30-2009, 11:43 AM

Hey how old are you Im have the exact same issue as you. Im 28 and just started TRt around the same dosage as you.

For example todat I had sex with my wife for the firs time in a week and got off before my dick decieded that he was finished first.

Some times he gets hard but wont stay hard.

Very frustrating at any age

Is the AI your usind or the HCG making any improvements in the ED department for you.

**Warrior1700** · 05-31-2009, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by CHAP

Hey how old are you Im have the exact same issue as you. Im 28 and just started TRt around the same dosage as you.

For example todat I had sex with my wife for the firs time in a week and got off before my dick decieded that he was finished first.

Some times he gets hard but wont stay hard.

Very frustrating at any age

Is the AI your usind or the HCG making any improvements in the ED department for you.

Im 46....I havnt really noticed much if any improvement with the Arimidex as of yet...

I havnt started the HCG yet.

**Warrior1700** · 06-04-2009, 12:25 PM

Still looking for some info on the latest blood work

**Warrior1700** · 06-11-2009, 11:56 AM

Anyone have any input?

Originally Posted by Warrior1700

Update...here are the blood results from the urologist. Different looking panel than I am used to seeing.

Also, I got a script for HCG form my other Doc, gonna start it next week, 500IUs 2x a week sound ok? I have 10,000 total.

Blood work.

FSH <0.4 Range 0.7-11.1 mlU/mL
LH <0.5 Range 0.8-7.6 mlU/mL
Prolactin 8.0 Range 1.6-18.7 ng/mL
SHBG 11 Range 13-71 nmol/L
Test 553 Range 225-972 ng/dL
FR.TEST.CALC 54.3 Range 12.0-25.0 pg/mL
TSM(3rd GEN.) 1.65 Range 0.50-4.60 uu/mL
TT4 6.1 Range 4.5-12.0 ug/dL
T-Uptake 39 Range 24-35 %

I think all the measurement units are correct, kinda hard to read my copy, but Im sure all you science goo roos understand em...lol

Any input would be greatly appreciated. I have not seen the Urol since I got these, not supposed to for awhile as he said it it no a physical problem.