Blood work! What would you do?

**DrewZ** · 01-30-2014, 02:57 PM

Hey all, just got the results to my first blood work.
I am no expert, everything is in range but what would try to improve on if these were your results?
Thanks!

Stats; Age 32, 190lbs, 5'7, never touched gear or PH.

**FRDave** · 01-30-2014, 03:03 PM

Free test is a little low but overall looks good. How you feeling?

**jomamma007** · 01-30-2014, 03:18 PM

igf as well but I suppose it could vary by quite a bit depending on several factors

**DrewZ** · 01-30-2014, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by FRDave

Free test is a little low but overall looks good. How you feeling?

Feel pretty good, a little more tired than I'd like.

Originally Posted by jomamma007

igf as well but I suppose it could vary by quite a bit depending on several factors

What factors might those be?
Any idea what the **Please note reference change** is referring to?

**jomamma007** · 01-30-2014, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by DrewZ

Feel pretty good, a little more tired than I'd like.

What factors might those be?
Any idea what the **Please note reference change** is referring to?

they changed the range for IGF I suppose.
And If you didn't sleep or worked out too much I think these can effect IGF.
Still your level seems pretty low to me.

**DrewZ** · 01-30-2014, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by jomamma007

they changed the range for IGF I suppose.
And If you didn't sleep or worked out too much I think these can effect IGF.
Still your level seems pretty low to me.

The day prior to the blood work was leg day, and I went pretty hard.
Also was up very late that night too.

**DrewZ** · 02-03-2014, 12:44 PM

Doing a 12 weeker worth of 2 a days right now, 1 week complete & everything going great.

I'm going to retest everything in 3 weeks to see what if anything has changed

My question is what other tests should I get? LH, TSH? anything else?

Weighted in at 193lbs Monday morning last week. (bad diet, high salt, fast food, etc.)
Got my stuff in order, totally clean, no fast food, no drinking calories.
Macros are about 2200-2500 cal a day, 40p/40c/20f

This morning I weighed in at 185.4lbs

Love that first week! expecting losses to be 1.5-2 lbs a week tops from here on out.

**2Sox** · 02-03-2014, 01:28 PM

Drew,
What is your protocol? Do you take hCG ? If you believe you can be feeling even better, in my view, you can stand to raise you T numbers and probably still keep you E2 in range. hCG will do this a little.

**DrewZ** · 02-03-2014, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by 2Sox

Drew,
What is your protocol? Do you take hCG? If you believe you can be feeling even better, in my view, you can stand to raise you T numbers and probably still keep you E2 in range. hCG will do this a little.

I know I can/should feel better than I currently do.

I have never taken, or pinned anything.

Just really interested in all this, fell in love the bodybuilding lifestyle, want to maximize my results best I can.

Looking for intelligent input, and basically the what would you do and why?

I know I'm in the right place!

Thanks,
Drew

EDITED: A little more history, see this post

**2Sox** · 02-03-2014, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by DrewZ

I know I can/should feel better than I currently do.

I have never taken, or pinned anything.

Just really interested in all this, fell in love the bodybuilding lifestyle, want to maximize my results best I can.

Looking for intelligent input, and basically the what would you do and why?

I know I'm in the right place!

Thanks,
Drew

EDITED: A little more history, see this post

Again, what is your protocol now?

**64509chvl** · 02-03-2014, 02:59 PM

I don't think he's on TRT or ever has been. I believe these are the natural T numbers?

**2Sox** · 02-03-2014, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by 64509chvl

I don't think he's on TRT or ever has been. I believe these are the natural T numbers?

Oh? My misunderstanding completely.

**64509chvl** · 02-03-2014, 03:24 PM

Yeah I just got that myself!

**The Deadlifting Dog** · 02-03-2014, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by DrewZ

Hey all, just got the results to my first blood work. I am no expert, everything is in range but what would try to improve on if these were your results?

I wouldn't start TRT.
I would test vitamin D.
I would start supplementing 5000ius/day of vitamin D3. (Be sure to take with fatty foods for better absorbtion.)
Raising your vitamin D levels will lower your SHBG level which will then raise your free testosterone levels .

**DrewZ** · 02-03-2014, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by 2Sox

Again, what is your protocol now?

Oops, sorry for the confusion! as people stated above, I've never been on TRT.

Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog

I wouldn't start TRT.
I would test vitamin D.
I would start supplementing 5000ius/day of vitamin D3. (Be sure to take with fatty foods for better absorbtion.)
Raising your vitamin D levels will lower your SHBG level which will then raise your free testosterone levels.

Thanks, I didn't realize I need to take it with my fats.
I have been supplementing 5000iu's of D3 every day for 5 weeks, and had been taking it before bed with my ZMA, Omega3+E, and Casein shake.
I had only been on 5000iu's of D maybe 3 weeks prior to my blood work, so not long.

So on my next blood work make sure to test Vit D, what about LH, TSH ?

**DrewZ** · 06-12-2014, 12:41 PM

Had new bloods (5 months later)

Increased Total T, Free T, and IGF-1

Have some interesting changes & a few Q's, thought I would share.

Update can be found here; Interesting Pre Cycle Bloods - Have Q's

**jasondd1** · 06-12-2014, 01:54 PM

I was able to increase my igf-1 from 130-140 to 320 by peptides in 6-7 months. Some people will say why do you care about igf-1 but I am getting bigger, leaner, and stronger since i started.

**DrewZ** · 06-12-2014, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by jasondd1

I was able to increase my igf-1 from 130-140 to 320 by peptides in 6-7 months. Some people will say why do you care about igf-1 but I am getting bigger, leaner, and stronger since i started.

Just read your thread, thats pretty intersting.

Are you still using it, and how long do you plan to?