My trek through a new life in TRT

**600@50** · 10-05-2012, 05:52 PM

Congratulations on your progress man. I haven't seen this thread before and read through the whole thing. Glad you persevered through all the issues. We have to be responsible for our own health and remember the doctor works for you. I've been of TRT for 19 years and I haven't had near the issues you've had. Good job and best of luck bro.

**SD421** · 10-09-2012, 02:25 AM

Originally Posted by funkymonk

I would injure someone for a regimen that perfect.

As would i

**bigboy67** · 10-09-2012, 03:40 PM

Just as an update, since I backed my AI down to .5mg every other day on this blast, my lower back spasms, which were pretty substantial and happening all day, magically went away. Awesome. I am even thinking of moving to .5mg E3D

**SD421** · 10-09-2012, 04:06 PM

Congrats bigboy, so nice to hear a success story like yours.

**bigboy67** · 10-12-2012, 10:50 AM

man, end of my 5th week on this blast, and I can see now why guys use. holy crap, the pumps are ridiculous. Lost 1.3" off my stomach in 4 weeks, not bad. interested to see how the remaining 5 weeks of this will go

**bigboy67** · 10-19-2012, 04:30 PM

end of the 6th week on this blast. Feeling pretty good. The Tren adds some crazy good pumps when working out, wow. But the Tren, T3, Clen combo also means I am like a sweaty ball of hot lava all day, haha.

**bass** · 10-19-2012, 04:33 PM

post before and after photos

**Bushyhead** · 10-20-2012, 10:34 PM

Wow I read the entire post. All very interesting. It makes me think I would love to locate a good doctor here in the Houston area to see If I could benefit from a professional consultation. I am 48 yrs. old and think this might be exaclty what I need. If anyone knows of a good doctor in the Houston area it would be much appreciated.

**bass** · 10-21-2012, 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by Bushyhead

Wow I read the entire post. All very interesting. It makes me think I would love to locate a good doctor here in the Houston area to see If I could benefit from a professional consultation. I am 48 yrs. old and think this might be exaclty what I need. If anyone knows of a good doctor in the Houston area it would be much appreciated.

Read the sticky Finding a Physician by Kelkel in this section.

**JackG79** · 10-21-2012, 03:40 AM

WoW I would def love to have a local doc like that. I have insurance through work, but can't find anyone that even knows what the acronym HRT, or TRT even mean that have a MD degree and a Rx Pad. I swear you to be an MD, you must have to have absolutley no faith in humanity. In my experience, as soon as I say I am 33.. I am on Testosterone Replac...... <interrupt...> "Why the hell is someone your age taking testosterone..." -Doctor.

Then it is the stare of death.. like they "Caught" me doing something illegal or immoral. Obviously I am using a TRT program because I have Low Testosterone ...

I feel like a junkie asking his doctor to discuss pain pills. ... so awkward.

Congrats on your success, and ability to overcome all the obstacles thrown at you man. You have done great. I think I may just call it a day myself.

**Bushyhead** · 10-21-2012, 08:04 AM

Thanks bass,
I investigated the links in that post and for the most part the doctors I found through them want to perform surgery and implant pellets. Recurring surgery is not an option I want to consider.

**bass** · 10-21-2012, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by Bushyhead

Thanks bass,
I investigated the links in that post and for the most part the doctors I found through them want to perform surgery and implant pellets. Recurring surgery is not an option I want to consider.

Yes, make sure you find a doctor that will prescribe injection, hCG and AI.

**bigboy67** · 10-22-2012, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by bass

post before and after photos

Don't have any "after" pics yet, havent felt good enough to worry about a picture, haha. I did snap some pics when I was 270. I will get the wife to do some pics from now and will post them up side by side for comparison

**LevMyshkin** · 10-23-2012, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by bigboy67

man, end of my 5th week on this blast, and I can see now why guys use. holy crap, the pumps are ridiculous. Lost 1.3" off my stomach in 4 weeks, not bad. interested to see how the remaining 5 weeks of this will go

Congrats on your progress man. I just passed the 6 month mark since I started TRT. Best decision I've ever made for myself.

**bigboy67** · 11-06-2012, 10:56 AM

got dunked yesterday. BF is now at exactly 20.0%. Down from 31.9% about a year ago. Since starting this blast, i lost 17 lbs fat, and gained 5 lbs lean muscle mass. dropped 6% BF in just over 8 weeks so far..... loving it

**bigboy67** · 11-08-2012, 10:48 AM

Decided to go ahead and run the blast for 5 more weeks past the planned date... will make it a 15 week blast through December 17, which still isnt too long, and all my doses are pretty tame as well. i will have bloods drawn 6 weeks after the end of my cycle. still trying to figure out if this will be the best time to just come off TRT all together, have bloods drawn, and see how my body produces Test on its own now that my body will be running at a much more optimal level.

What do you guys think? My doc also noticed that i actually didnt get diagnosed as primary or secondary the first time around either. He would like to have it checked out, so maybe a double benefit. come off blast, do a real post cycle and not start up TRT, get bloods drawn to check all levels along with TSH and LH at that time...

**bigboy67** · 11-09-2012, 11:10 AM

I still haven't been able to wrangle the wife into snapping some pics of me with a real camera, so I just snapped a quick iphone pic. sorry for the shitty quality, but you get the point. 270 lbs, 32% BF down to 234 lbs, 20% BF.

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**bigboy67** · 11-09-2012, 11:11 AM

good thing about tattoos is I never have to worry about anyone thinking its not a progress pic of me

**bigboy67** · 11-12-2012, 01:44 PM

damn, i have been bit by the sugar bug, BAD. I cant even look at a piece of chocolate or candy without eating it. Having a pregnant wife in the house has serious dietary drawbacks, haha.

**bigboy67** · 11-13-2012, 04:55 PM

Doc appt with my new primary care today. looks like my body is a bit out of balance, muscle to flexibility wise. Got some recommendations on specific stretches to help make my back feel better. already feels a bit better than before... doesn't hurt that my doc also does back manipulation (aka chiropractor type work)

**bigboy67** · 11-16-2012, 09:23 PM

Okay, FINALLY got the wife on the camera to take a real pic of me to show progress. Here ya go fellas. Pretty sure I have cracked the teens in BF% now, but maybe just barely, haha. Hoping I can hit 15% by the time my wife has our second baby at the end of March.

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**TennTarheel** · 11-16-2012, 10:48 PM

BB, what body fat measuring method are you using along your journey? Also, sent you a PM

**bigboy67** · 11-18-2012, 12:11 PM

Hey Tenn, sent ya a PM back. I get hydrostatic weighed at the local hospital. I tried those crappy calipers and such in the past, but theres too much room for error and bad readings. Hydro is the only way to go for me.

In case anyone else needs the name and # for my compounded where I get my hcg , It's Central Drugs Compounding Pharmacy. Phone number is 562-691-6754

**APIs** · 11-18-2012, 03:26 PM

Quite a change, congrats! I'd say you're likely in the teens @ maybe 17/18? I lost touch with this thread, but why coming off TRT?

**bigboy67** · 11-18-2012, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by APIs

Quite a change, congrats! I'd say you're likely in the teens @ maybe 17/18? I lost touch with this thread, but why coming off TRT?

I'm just not convinced that I really know how well my body will produce Test once I am in consistently good shape with a solid diet in place. People say you will just produce whatever baseline you could produce before, I'm not sold on that notion, and I just want to make sure I really know before a lifelong commitment.

Plus, I convert testosterone really well, so even when my total is low, my free is still really good

**bigboy67** · 11-19-2012, 11:19 PM

Originally Posted by bigboy67

I'm just not convinced that I really know how well my body will produce Test once I am in consistently good shape with a solid diet in place. People say you will just produce whatever baseline you could produce before, I'm not sold on that notion, and I just want to make sure I really know before a lifelong commitment.

Plus, I convert testosterone really well, so even when my total is low, my free is still really good

Also, and I am not really sure why I never thought of this before today, I have a varicocele, and after doing a bit of research I am starting to wonder if that is the real reason I have low T in the first place. Going to bring it to my doc as a follow up questions when I see him next, but honestly in no hurry, just enjoying this last 4 weeks of my blast. Being on TRT is doing on bad thing for me, mentally anyways, in that it has made me not afraid of using gear for bi-annual blasts, as I have ZERO need to worry about coming off since I am already on exogenous testosterone. Trying to trick myself into forgetting that part, haha

**Kalani9976** · 11-20-2012, 03:44 PM

Ive read this thread twice. Great read

**Brohim** · 11-20-2012, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by bigboy67

Also, and I am not really sure why I never thought of this before today, I have a varicocele, and after doing a bit of research I am starting to wonder if that is the real reason I have low T in the first place. Going to bring it to my doc as a follow up questions when I see him next, but honestly in no hurry, just enjoying this last 4 weeks of my blast. Being on TRT is doing on bad thing for me, mentally anyways, in that it has made me not afraid of using gear for bi-annual blasts, as I have ZERO need to worry about coming off since I am already on exogenous testosterone. Trying to trick myself into forgetting that part, haha

probably the varicocele caused your TRT. Maybe try to get it fixed somehow and come off? Since you talked about coming off...

Wht compounds are you blasting right now?

**bigboy67** · 11-20-2012, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by Brohim

probably the varicocele caused your TRT. Maybe try to get it fixed somehow and come off? Since you talked about coming off...

Wht compounds are you blasting right now?

Ya, I am going to bring it up to the doc, I know they can do some microsurgery now to fix the issue. Plus I need a vasectomy anyhow, so two for one!

I am currently blasting 400mg Test (mix of cyp and E), 400mg Tren , and 600mg EQ each week, split into two doses of course (still comes out to about 3ml a shot). Been a game changer for me so far, never blasted before... I think I am going to get close to 8-10% (extremely hopeful for 10%) BF reduction in my 14 week cycle

**bigboy67** · 11-21-2012, 11:49 AM

If you're going to run Clen and T3, PLEASE remember to up your water intake by a good 25-30%..... I forgot to do this, and remembered when I had debilitating abdominal and leg cramps at the gym , ha , stupid ass

**bigboy67** · 11-23-2012, 10:07 AM

Off to the gym to apologize to my body for what it had to go through yesterday, haha. All the carbs, and booze, and sugar. Bleh, that probably cost me a few weeks progress alone. Meh, gotta be able to still enjoy things, otherwise what is the point

**bigboy67** · 11-26-2012, 03:36 PM

Gotta love when you binge on carbs over the holidays.... workouts are just amazing after a big carb up meal, haha. Leg day today.

Checked a few stats today, just b/c I was curious, and I am actually at the same waist line that I was when I was in the best shape of my life, about 6 years ago, plus I am 20 lbs heavier, nice!

**bigboy67** · 11-30-2012, 05:02 PM

I have decided for the final month of my blast that I am going to run GH at 6iu per day, split into 3 injections, one early AM, one pre-workout, one before bed.

I note from research that large cycles, or extensive cycling of GH, can create a situation that lessens your body's ability to generate its own GH. I have been studying IGF-1, and Sermorelin as alternatives to actual GH. Opinions?

**TennTarheel** · 11-30-2012, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by bigboy67

I have decided for the final month of my blast that I am going to run GH at 6iu per day, split into 3 injections, one early AM, one pre-workout, one before bed.

I note from research that large cycles, or extensive cycling of GH, can create a situation that lessens your body's ability to generate its own GH. I have been studying IGF-1, and Sermorelin as alternatives to actual GH. Opinions?

You're planning on running the GH longer than just a month though right?

**bigboy67** · 12-01-2012, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by TennTarheel

You're planning on running the GH longer than just a month though right?

Oh ya, I have been running GH since the third week of September., and will be running through mid-december, so about a solid 3 months of GH therapy

**bigboy67** · 12-06-2012, 01:38 PM

set my appointment for hydrostatic bodyfat testing..... D-day is 12/21/12.... Hoping I am close to around 17% BF.... Would be almost half the BF I had a little over a year ago.... Hoping anyways, haha, was 20% last time around, and definitely thinner, more vascular, etc. but not quite sold I will be at the 17% mark. Gonna have to be real strict on my diet, crank my workouts hard, and get 8-10 hours sleep a night and do my damndest to hit that mark

**38onTRT** · 12-06-2012, 02:48 PM

Huge congrats on the transformation. Subbed.

**bigboy67** · 12-15-2012, 10:43 AM

Got some progress pics from start of TRT to today

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**redhawk01** · 12-15-2012, 11:24 AM

Good job, keep it up.

**bigboy67** · 12-20-2012, 10:34 AM

Since my blast ended at the end of last week, I actually decided to move to SubQ Test injections versus IM from now on....I will now be going with 50mg SubQ twice per week... no AI, since I am hyper sensitive to AI's...will be getting bloods done in February (figured I would give myself a good long time after blasting and restarting TRT so I don't catch my levels in flux)