Sub-Q Test Injection starting today!

[dfwo]

LOL, so what happens when we get all ripped and have no more belly fat?!

I'll have a member of my harem inject me

[steroid.com 1]

whats a slin pin?

Insulin Syringe

[ecdysone]

Ethly Oleate.... I keep telling you guys... what am I red for nothing????? lmao

ok so disclosure - a few people do have small reactions to EO, but for those that do they seem to lesson and go away over time.

smooth and goes really well with slin pins

Any truth to the rumor that EO will dissolve the rubber on the syringe plunger - for those us who pre-load and then store them?

[lovbyts]

Any truth to the rumor that EO will dissolve the rubber on the syringe plunger - for those us who pre-load and then store them?

I have heard that also and it's probably a good reason not to pre load but I'm not sure if it's true. Also, if it's true wouldn't it have the same effect on the rubber stopper on the vials? They may be a different type of rubber of course but???

[flatscat]

Never experience this problem with the vials.

[GMAC10]

Frawnz - The whole point here with SQ injecitons is that you only need to inject once per week as opposed to twice a week IM. Test have shown that both Test and E2 levels did not go through the peak and valley cycles we see in some men with IM weekly.

That's the biggest benefit of SQ.

I am taking 200 mg every 5 days along with HCG ... You guys think I can inject sub Q with the test C... TRT experience 9 months.. Quads sore.. Thoughts?

[GMAC10]

I'm new here, 9 months of TRT, never any issues other than slightly sore quads. Currently injecting 200 mg every 5 days along w/HCG ...is sub Q a viable option ??? Seems like a crazy thick test C to push thru that small needle???

[frawnz]

Frawnz - The whole point here with SQ injecitons is that you only need to inject once per week as opposed to twice a week IM. Test have shown that both Test and E2 levels did not go through the peak and valley cycles we see in some men with IM weekly.

That's the biggest benefit of SQ.

I hear ya. The problem is that my weekly injection is 1.5 ml. A bit too much for sub-q, especially since people have mentioned that they're getting lumps with just 1 cc.

[bass]

I hear ya. The problem is that my weekly injection is 1.5 ml. A bit too much for sub-q, especially since people have mentioned that they're getting lumps with just 1 cc.

well, i have a lump from my last injection i did on Sunday, little sore and hard lump, probably because i didn't massage enough, or simply because its a virgin area!

GDevine or anyone, do you think icing would help?

[JD250]

I don't inject my test sub Q so this may not mean anything but I have noticed that I've gotten the lump and even some slight bruising from HCG sub Q injections, what I finally figured out was that I was pinning at an angle, which is actually recomended by some, so I started pinching the skin up and pinning straight in at a 90 degree and making sure that I stick the 5/8 inch needle all the way in, maybe it's a fluke but I havent had that problem since, I wonder if the compound is too close too the skin or balled up just under the skin instead of down in the fat, I really don't know the answer, these are just observations that I've made about myself, hope it helps.

[PetrX]

Ok I'm confused here...I'm type 1 diabetic and my dr is going to put me on trt next month do to insulin lowering my test levels...I am a pro at sub q injections haha but if I did the sub q injections with the test , would I I get the same effect as an I'm injections??

[yannick35]

I was offered sub q myself by my medical doctor, but this is the last resort type of thing he also told me that some of the testosterone can get lost doing it this way. The best place to inject is in the glute, then the leg then the shoulder.

At least for me the quantity i am injecting is very low like 1cc every 7 days i really want this to do its max effect and not waste it

[HitIt]

Ok I'm confused here...I'm type 1 diabetic and my dr is going to put me on trt next month do to insulin lowering my test levels...I am a pro at sub q injections haha but if I did the sub q injections with the test , would I I get the same effect as an I'm injections??

yes.

[HitIt]

well, i have a lump from my last injection i did on Sunday, little sore and hard lump, probably because i didn't massage enough, or simply because its a virgin area!

GDevine or anyone, do you think icing would help?

i don;t massage my lumps...they are gone by the next injection time (every 3.5 days) and i just alternate between either side of the belly from the button to the hips

[steroid.com 1]

I was offered sub q myself by my medical doctor, but this is the last resort type of thing he also told me that some of the testosterone can get lost doing it this way. The best place to inject is in the glute, then the leg then the shoulder.

At least for me the quantity i am injecting is very low like 1cc every 7 days i really want this to do its max effect and not waste it

LOL...please, can you tell me his rational for this statement?

SC injections are becoming more and more common and a viable safer injection protocol alternative for men.

[steroid.com 1]

[QUOTE=bass;5797930]well, i have a lump from my last injection i did on Sunday, little sore and hard lump, probably because i didn't massage enough, or simply because its a virgin area!

GDevine or anyone, do you think icing would help?[/QUOTE]

I don't see how icing can hurt bass. I massage both IM and SC injections for a good minute over the injection site either way I inject. I don't see the pooling very much with SC when I do that.

Using two fingers; just a mild but somewhat firm massage smooths out the test in the tissues.

[Fred40]

I don't know why but I'm completely comfortable sticking with IM injections.

I have no problem with 1x a week and my numbers are great. A 27 gauge needle shot in the quad is virtually painless.

I guess "why mess with it?" would be my take.

[bass]

not for me, i tried my quads and it felt like a knife stab! hurts like hell. my gluts are no problem, reaching is a little uncomfortable like you said in the other thread! and there is nothing like SQ injections, very easy and painless, but if the lumps and sourness continue i will go back to IM.

[yannick35]

LOL...please, can you tell me his rational for this statement?

SC injections are becoming more and more common and a viable safer injection protocol alternative for men.

I did not ask him to be honest. But tough it made sense because isn't testosterone suppose to be injected in a muscle?

[bigboy67]

I did not ask him to be honest. But tough it made sense because isn't testosterone suppose to be injected in a muscle?

studies are showing that sub Q vs. IM produces approximately the same serum results, and that subQ may actually require less Test than IM

[bass]

well I'll be a testimony for this in 3 weeks from now, I'll be doing blood work to see how it worked!

[JD250]

I'll be watching and waiting Bass.

[HitIt]

studies are showing that sub Q vs. IM produces approximately the same serum results, and that subQ may actually require less Test than IM

my blood work at 200mg/wk of test E subq was beyond the tested ranges of free and total test.

[yannick35]

studies are showing that sub Q vs. IM produces approximately the same serum results, and that subQ may actually require less Test than IM

Ok i need to read more on this then, i do have a gut and wonder how i can sub Q? do i need to reach the abs or i just inject under the skin?

[yannick35]

my blood work at 200mg/wk of test E subq was beyond the tested ranges of free and total test.

that is the dosage i am injecting myself. I am looking into this sub q injection right away, it will be a lot less painful. Not sure why my medical doctor told me to avoid this method, i have read on some forum that its not good either but maybe it was just people not knowing what they where talking about. This can be far less painful.

[yannick35]

my blood work at 200mg/wk of test E subq was beyond the tested ranges of free and total test.

that is the dosage i am injecting myself. I am looking into this sub q injection right away, it will be a lot less painful. Not sure why my medical doctor told me to avoid this method, i have read on some forum that its not good either but maybe it was just people not knowing what they where talking about. This can be far less painful.

[lvs]

because it goes against what they have been taught and their unwillingness to continue learning. My endo acted like she had never heard of giving cyp injections subq and therefore won't allow it either.

that is the dosage i am injecting myself. I am looking into this sub q injection right away, it will be a lot less painful. Not sure why my medical doctor told me to avoid this method, i have read on some forum that its not good either but maybe it was just people not knowing what they where talking about. This can be far less painful.

[kelkel]

because it goes against what they have been taught and their unwillingness to continue learning. My endo acted like she had never heard of giving cyp injections subq and therefore won't allow it either.

Docs are people too and don't know it all. Sounds like she just did not like not having an answer, so she was dismissive of it. Common with doctors and TRT, unfortunately.

[BigBadWolf]

Does % of body fat play any role of sub-q injections? Like if your over a certain percent would it be less effective or harder for the test to be released into your system?

[lvs]

i get that they are people too, but if your profession is Endocrinolgy and part of your professional profile is TRT, then at least an "I will look into it for you" would be nice. We are paying them for a service and typically everyone wants to get what they are paying for.

Docs are people too and don't know it all. Sounds like she just did not like not having an answer, so she was dismissive of it. Common with doctors and TRT, unfortunately.

[yannick35]

Can this be done with a 21 gauge?, in the stomach area, i copied the PDF file gdevine posted. I am ready to try this next week when my other 1cc of test is due.

[Fred40]

Can this be done with a 21 gauge?, in the stomach area, i copied the PDF file gdevine posted. I am ready to try this next week when my other 1cc of test is due.

Uhhh.....hell and no. I mean.....I guess you can try but.....

One of the BIG benefits with SQ is that you can use a very short 30 gauge insulin needle.

[bass]

Ok i need to read more on this then, i do have a gut and wonder how i can sub Q? do i need to reach the abs or i just inject under the skin?

no this need to be injected in the fat as you do hCG .

[bass]

my last Sunday SQ injection still sore and have a hard lump, if is doesn't go away by this Sunday i may go back to IM injections!

[yannick35]

I will try quad next time, i know that glute does not hurt but i sure feels inconfortable.

[bass]

a quick update, i will be getting a blood work order for next week Wednesday, doing simple tests mainly to see how the SQ injections is working. blood work will include,

1. total test
2. free test
3. rbc, wbc, hemo, etc...
4. liver and kidney functions
5. lipid panel
6. E2
7. DHEA (for the first time)

i'll keep you posted.

[subnet]

sounds good Bass! Quick Q - do you have any type of stinging when doing SubQ? The reason I ask is that I did it twice (Test C) and it stung like I was injecting acid - really strange. I have nothing like this while doing IM.

[bass]

no stinging at all, in fact i feel nothing while injecting, the only problem was getting sore and hard lump the next day and lasted for few days, but thats gone too, it only happened the first injection probably because it was a virgin area. i also massage the area for at least a minute after injection.

[BigBadWolf]

no stinging at all, in fact i feel nothing while injecting, the only problem was getting sore and hard lump the next day and lasted for few days, but thats gone too, it only happened the first injection probably because it was a virgin area. i also massage the area for at least a minute after injection.

Your blood work will be a deciding factor if I try SQ or not. When do you think you'll have the results back?

[bass]

I'll be giving blood next Wednesday, so hopefully by next Friday or early the following week. I'll post it here as soon i i get it.