Ouch my Butt Check HURTS!!!

**innerg** · 02-02-2012, 01:22 PM

Hey-

So For my TRT I take 1cc a week. some weeks this happens other weeks it does not BUT It feels like a big ball of soreness. nothing on the outside just deep in the muscle. is it a infection? they go away in about 6-7 days day 4 seems the worst.

I baked my vile for 30 min at 260* first just in-case of bacteria.

anyone else get these?

**sirupate** · 02-02-2012, 01:36 PM

I'm not sure you should be baking your vial...maybe someone else will chime in on that. Gentle warming under hot water should be OK. Just use a alcohol prep wipe on the rubber vial stopper before withdrawing your test. if you are concerned about bacteria. The test. solution itself should be sterile already. Some soreness at the injection site isn't all that uncommon. Inject slowly into the muscle, rather than quickly.

Or...begin injecting subcutaneously into your belly fat using an insulin pin. This is pretty painless and no "knot"/soreness feeling in your muscle afterwards.

**JohnnyVegas** · 02-02-2012, 01:41 PM

Inject slooooowwwwlllly. Keep everything clean, as stated above.

**innerg** · 02-02-2012, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by JohnnyVegas

Inject slooooowwwwlllly. Keep everything clean, as stated above.

ok im pretty sure that's my mess up. not going slow.

**innerg** · 02-02-2012, 02:10 PM

this is what i read to do once. mine is phrma grade but I still did it. is this bad?

""Another thing I do.. and this is me personally... I don't care who
I get my gear from or if I make it myself.. I always 'bake' my
vials the first time before ever injecting to make sure its
sterile. Even pharma grade gear. There's no guarantee of 100%
sterilization no matter where its made.

Easy to do this.. pop the cap of the vial, take a sterile needle
(just the needle)put the needle just into the stopper to make an
airway for the vial. Do not put the needle to far into the vial
that its close to touching the oil.* Preheat the oven to ~260
degrees F and bake it for 30 minutes. The needle is to make sure
it doesn't cause any pressure in the vial. After baking it, take
the needle out and let it cool down. It will cause a suction in
the vial by cooling it(kind of like canning in a pressure cooker).
So make sure to draw air into your syringe before drawing the oil
to cause pressure stabilization in the vial (i'm sure you know
that).

*putting the needle too close to the level of the oil, the heat
will expand the oil and it will crawl up the needle and seep out.
You only want air escaping the vial.""

seems like it makes sense??

**bass** · 02-02-2012, 02:20 PM

DO NOT BAKE YOUR VIAL! geeeeeeeeeese!!!!!! i wonder if its any good after baking!

like stated above, inject slowly them massage for about a minute or so, and rotate your injection! to avoid this completely split your dose to twice a week.

**JohnnyVegas** · 02-02-2012, 03:08 PM

I have read threads where it is recommend to put the vial in hot water with a vent. I am sure heating it is OK, but I don't know what the temp range should be.

Agree with splitting the dose. Twice a week with half the volume is preferable for several reasons.

**bass** · 02-02-2012, 03:23 PM

yea heating the vial maybe okay but 260 degrees?! i am surprised the vial didn't explode. LOL!

**steroid.com 1** · 02-02-2012, 03:41 PM

Oldie but goodie:http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...How-to-cure-it

I wouldn't doubt that heating the esters like you did changed the composition.

In fact I am willing to bet it compromised the entire vial on many fronts.

The esters used are designed to break down under certain body temperatures and you way surpassed that...

**JD250** · 02-02-2012, 05:03 PM

Absolutely no need to try and sterilize your vial, there are ingredients in there already that keep everything on the inside of the vial sterile. If your buying from a pharmacy you're good to go, if your buying from a UGL, it's a coin toss whether or not they have the slightest clue how to sterilize their vials before they are filled and capped. Inject slow and you'll probably be fine.

**fit2bOld** · 02-02-2012, 08:32 PM

I always warm the vial before I inject cold test in a hot ass cheek= pain in the ass..... Run hot water slowly from the tap over the vial for about one or two minutes. Been doing this over 2 years never a problem

**bass** · 02-02-2012, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by fit2bOld

I always warm the vial before I inject cold test in a hot ass cheek= pain in the ass..... Run hot water slowly from the tap over the vial for about one or two minutes. Been doing this over 2 years never a problem

in stead of changing the temperature of the vial over and over again, why not heat the syringe after you draw? this way you keep the vial temp consistent. i don't think heating and cooling the vial is a good thing. just my humble opinion!

**bullshark99** · 02-03-2012, 08:30 AM

I would agree that heating the vile is prob not nec. Go slow as stated above and remember to relax as much as possible, if you tighten up at all while injecting thats where I notice pain for the next few days.

**sirupate** · 02-03-2012, 08:52 AM

Can't quote a reply in this thread for some odd reason....anyway, I liked Bass' suggestion above. Don't know why I didn't think of it. Withdraw from your vial, then just warm the syringe to body temperature by cradeling the syringe in the crook of your arm, or use your armpit. You'll need to keep the needle covered, or change it out to maintain sterility. I just never bothered with the warming part when I was injecting, but it might be a bit more muscle friendly to do so.

**DaRoq** · 02-03-2012, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by innerg

Hey-

So For my TRT I take 1cc a week. some weeks this happens other weeks it does not BUT It feels like a big ball of soreness. nothing on the outside just deep in the muscle. is it a infection? they go away in about 6-7 days day 4 seems the worst.

I baked my vile for 30 min at 260* first just in-case of bacteria.

anyone else get these?

I've been told that the pain happens if the injection-site muscle is clenched when penetrated.

**pugster** · 02-03-2012, 10:34 AM

so... dont clench when penetrated

my first nebido injection (4ml) gave me a numb ass for a half hr , doc did run the vial under a warm tap for a few mins to thin it beforehand and did it in about 15 secs (i was expecting alot longer) , other han the numb ass no probs at all tbh.

**pugster** · 02-03-2012, 10:36 AM

*removed, double post for some reason :/

**bass** · 02-03-2012, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by sirupate

Can't quote a reply in this thread for some odd reason....anyway, I liked Bass' suggestion above. Don't know why I didn't think of it. Withdraw from your vial, then just warm the syringe to body temperature by cradeling the syringe in the crook of your arm, or use your armpit. You'll need to keep the needle covered, or change it out to maintain sterility. I just never bothered with the warming part when I was injecting, but it might be a bit more muscle friendly to do so.

what i do in cold days is warm up the syringe with a hair dryer, of course the needle cap in place, it takes about 10-15 seconds.

**JD250** · 02-03-2012, 02:16 PM

I've never had much issue with 200 strength test but 300 deca is a little much to force through a small needle into your cheek, I go REAL slow on that. Maybe it's a different oil or something too. I dunno.

**bass** · 02-03-2012, 09:06 PM

last two vials of deca i got were in sesame oil. sesame oil is usually thicker than cotton seed or grape seed oil.

**ConArmas** · 02-07-2012, 11:50 PM

I know that the only time i feel the burn, or other discomfort, is when the lady nurse pokes me. (she is quick)
When the guy nurse pokes me, he goes slow and it never hurts.