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    Jake14 is offline Junior Member
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    Changing From IM injections to SQ

    When changing from IM to SQ injections for test cyp, did you have to change your dosage to maintain same levels? Thanks.

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    Use same levels; however, if you are doing 1 IM injection/week break that into 2 subq injections a week and take half the IM injection amount at each subq injection.

    So to clarify that long runon sentance: if you do 100 mg /week IM, do 50 mg subq and inject that twice a week. I am currently doing subq EOD right now. I like the even levels and have been able to drop my AI entirely. I dislike the added time spent on the protocol since I now do T EOD and HCG EOD on alternating days. Every day I am poking myself with something.

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    Thanks. So it looks like your absorption rates are the same. I may try EOD to drop the Ai. Any reason you don' t do test and HCG on tha same day? I would be more apt to do that.

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    the reality is is that I don't think we have the clinical data that looks at the pharmacokinetics of subQ testosterone injections. it's really a new'ish thing.

    it's also important to remember that TRT is really a tiny part of the medical education and the majority of regular doctors still use T injections on a once every 2 or 3 week protocol.

    so, like most of your own TRT it will be trial and error to find out what's best for you personally. I would keep the dose the same and split the amount in half to do 2 shots a week and rotate the site.

    why are you switching to subQ anyways? seems you might be trying to lessen aromatase to see if you can drop the AI. it would be nice to see how this plays out for you.

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    I was going to go try SQ just because it was a little easier. I get a little muscle soreness with IM, nothing bad, but no soreness with SQ.

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    I liked subq till it felt like it wasn't working, and then injected test or hcg too close to one of the other injection sites and the mix resulted in a nasty swelling, still have a bruise look to it, and haven't injected there in two months almost. So just be careful of injecting anything to close to a previous spot. I didn't feel like I absorbed it as well, but i don't have numbers to back it up, also dose was a bit different, so that kind of screws with things as well.

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    Well, and here's how I see it: if you're doing IM (what, maybe one per week?), then that's >2000 muscle holes in an average lifetime.

    Imagine what kind of Swiss cheese that would produce!

    OTOH, 4000 holes in subcutaneous fat... well that part of your body is very resilient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GotNoBlueMilk View Post
    Use same levels; however, if you are doing 1 IM injection/week break that into 2 subq injections a week and take half the IM injection amount at each subq injection.

    So to clarify that long runon sentance: if you do 100 mg /week IM, do 50 mg subq and inject that twice a week. I am currently doing subq EOD right now. I like the even levels and have been able to drop my AI entirely. I dislike the added time spent on the protocol since I now do T EOD and HCG EOD on alternating days. Every day I am poking myself with something.
    Hey, glad to hear it's working for you! Have you had a BW to show any deviations, etc. I know Bass tried that protocol and his E shot way up without an AI.

    Op, I would not instantly drop your AI upon beginning your SQ protocol.

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    ^^^ agree! I cut my AI dosage in half after switching to SQ but only after a nasty E crash from the 1mg I started with, now I'm in the high 20's low 30's finally, I bet you will find the need for a hopefully smaller dose of AI

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