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    Hey guys,
    Same with me I am also very interested to find a good doc in Melbourne!
    You can pm me if preferred! Thank you!
    Cheers

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    How many posts until I can PM?, yettibecsuse can you please PM me the name of the doctor or email me at tempest.seven at gmail dot com

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    yettibecsuse is online now, but I can't PM him... if someone else can please do it for me and ask him to email me at tempest.seven at gmail dot com I would be so so grateful

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    Please PM me of doctors in brisbane who prescribe trt injections, T cream is crap.

    I think my problem is i dont fit the strict criteria as my total T is generally ok, usually in the mid to high teens (normal range 10-33) but my free T has always measured low for the last 7 years, normal range is 60-130 and i have tests between 35 and 57 for freeT.

    I have done some injections of sustanon that i have sourced but this wont last forever?? but man it makes a big difference, i feel alot better, i dont roll out of bed in pain with my bad back and niggly little pains have been clearing up etc. My exercise has been very irregular due to low energy and ability to recover but with some real T on board im recovering well from workouts and strength increasing quite rapidly. Im maintaining my weight even though my appetite is increasing but my waist has gone down. Only very early days so see how much more improvement.

    Would really like to have a doctor on board??

    So i think this is telling me my low freeT is an issue and treating it will fix alot of general issues i have.

    cheers!!

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    I know it's an old thread I'm also looking for a good doc that knows what they're doing I'm in adelaide or interstate is ok so sick of being told I'm normal nothing wrong with me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orion1982 View Post
    I know it's an old thread I'm also looking for a good doc that knows what they're doing I'm in adelaide or interstate is ok so sick of being told I'm normal nothing wrong with me
    i think its getting worse now, a friend of mine saw his doctor recently for some hormone tests and asked for a free T test, the doc replied that they no longer do it as its inaccurate and is some sort of recommendation by the health authorities, maybe trying to save money on testing. It seems they are slowly squeezing shut the opportunity to treat men with TRT in australia. My doc will prescribe T cream but injections he said he cant as the criteria is too tight to put most men on trt, unless you have had your balls ripped off somehow?

    I guess this will turn into another underground business.

    good luck.

    ps maybe a short course of nolvadex may restart a low test level??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Movingmetal View Post
    I spoke to 3 endos who were useless. They stated that a level of 8nmol/l is in the normal range. I'm 21 and 8 is not acceptable to me. I recently saw a testosterone specialiast who is not an endo, and he has my best interests at heart. I am
    Now on testogel daily and can change to injections if I want. He said its his priority to keep me in the upper ranges. Happy man I am
    i know a man in Adelaide who will give you just about anything you want within reason

    im on test gels and HGH all on script

    im an old fart tho

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    Yup TRT in australia is quite hard to get now days, its basically self medicating, which isnt the right thing to do, but also quite easy if you know how to do it and if your access to getting bloods isnt to tight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger11 View Post
    Yup TRT in australia is quite hard to get now days, its basically self medicating, which isnt the right thing to do, but also quite easy if you know how to do it and if your access to getting bloods isnt to tight.
    when I got tested I got an option of test gels, sustanon , reandaron, pellets and of course primotestin
    and this is in Adelaide, you just have to look harder. mind you it wasn't cheap

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozraw View Post
    when I got tested I got an option of test gels, sustanon , reandaron, pellets and of course primotestin
    and this is in Adelaide, you just have to look harder. mind you it wasn't cheap
    Guess your doctor doesnt care if he is audited and license lost and possibly faces legal issues then hey? Cos i find this very very hard to believe.

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    Im not sure if there is a difference between compound pharmacies or not?

    I was getting pregnenolone cream which worked well from them and a T cream but the T cream did squat and eventually the preg didnt seem to do much, so unsure if quality was turning crap.

    I have changed compound pharmacies and the preg gave me a boost of energy when i started using it, although early days the T cream seems to also have better effects. I will get some testinjg done in a few weeks to see??

    If the laws werent so dam strict, we wouldnt need to go through alot of this trial and error. There is a big difference between the Tcream and injections??

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    Hi, New too the Forums, but who was the GP in the Toowoomba area or can someone in the know PM me?

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    The cream will lose effectiveness over time that's why injections are the better option.

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    For those on TRT or looking to get on TRT in Australia, just a heads up, that the requirement has now been made even harder to have it prescribed, the government is now making you test under 6nmol as opposed to 8nmol before being treated.

    Good luck lol.

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    Hi there, looking for a specialist in Melbourne, can you help with that? Thanks

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    Hey all

    Can someone please let me know the physician who can help me recover my HPTA, I was on TRT for 10 months and because I had E2 related side effects, My endo and myself both decided to stop TRT, it has been over 12 months now and my HPTA still not fully recovered and recent BW shows Total Testosterone was 8 nmol/L Ref 8-27 nmol/L.

    Unable to even recover from moderate exercise now, My endo do not believe in restarting HPTA so I just waited it out for 12 months in hopes of natural recovery but this hasn't happened and LH level were 2.2 pnmol Ref 2-12.

    Melbourne, Australia

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    lowT this thread's about a year old. Why don't you copy and paste your post into a new threat on this forum please.
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    Didn't want to create a new thread that is all I thought this would be a good idea as people already from the same region where I am...

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    LowT i think you should have had hcg and then SERMS like noladex or clomid and later AIs to contol estrogen.
    Im going through it now. About to quit trt. But I dont know how to get SERMS . Can anyone point me in the right direction. Im need nolvadex and aromasin .
    Would love to have a doctor on board for it all. They treat trt with clomid and AIs in the U.S but here in Australia it seems that doctors have their head in the ground.

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    Are there any doctors that do hpta restarts. Or do i have to move to switzerland or somewhere with decent doctors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yettibecsuse View Post
    I have a great one in Brisbane, he is one of the UQ Med lectures old school but is on the ball
    I’m sorry to bump this but really looking to see if you can help. I am based on Brisbane and looking for someone to provide a script for TRT. If you could reply with the docs name that would be much appreciated.

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    I would like to throw in my 2c here:

    If you don't wanna read my wall of text, and you want the most up-to-date info out of the US on trt protocols, please do yourself a favor and please listen to this podcast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZyptAoqnJw featuring Dr. John crisler, top trt physician in the US, there is so much good info contained it's not funny. There are also many more on youtube with a wealth of info.

    ATTENTION: if an endo ever offers you reandron 1000, proceed to run 100ks in the other direction, as this means that the endo has absolutely no clue on how to properly administer trt.

    I have been on trt for 4 yrs now. Diagnosed with hypogonadotropic hypogonadism(central hypogonadism) due to a benign pituitary tumor. I felt good up until age 27 which is when I guess the tumor started shutting me down.

    Now, in my case I don't just have low T levels, I literally have no levels of T in my body if i stop trt. My body has completely, lost the ability to produce testosterone .

    All I have to say is that the state of trt in Australia is abysmal, most docs are using protocols from the 80s-90s.

    And to say I have been on the trt treatment rollercoaster is the understatement of the century.

    The first treatment offered to me was reandrom 1000, which is Testosterone undecanoate 1000mg shot every 8 -12 weeks, so that's 1gram of test(in my case) every 10 weeks. After everything i have learned about trt protocols in the past 4 yrs i have since learned that this is THE WORST TRT PROTOCOL EVER DEVISED.

    I don't care how fancy an ester they put on it, 1 gram of test isn't going to stay in your body anywhere close to 8 - 12 weeks, let alone maintain a steady state.

    The goal of trt is to get your hormone panel as close to a healthy males in their late 20's that has high-normal to high t lvls, no less, no more, and test is just one hormone and a small piece of the puzzle, you need the whole panel checked and adjusted to feel as good as possible.

    My current situ is that im now on the max dose of gels which is working quite well. I'm definitely allot closer to steady state.

    I'm yet to find a decent endo though, I'm just lucky my endo gives me whatever I want, but that's only because of my diagnosis, I'm sure if I presented with general low T, it would be a whole diff story.

    i have literally been teaching my endo trt along the way, went from reandron, enenthate - every 3 weeks(which is the second worst [rotolcol you could ever be prescribed) to every 2w, then now onto the gels, which i have felt the best on and no longer have ANY PEAKS AND VALLEYS.

    But endo still refuses to check anything other tha the standard blood panel, with total t thrown in, and had to beg him to get estrogen tested, again just abysmal treatment but I cant find another endo that bulk bills, so god only knows what the rest of my hormones are doing, all I can do is monitor myself closely for high e symtoms, atlest the gels are very easy to quckly adjust dosage and changes are felt in under 3 days with them. If you listen to the podcast mentioned above, according to dr crisler the best steady stae is achived with gels as long as everything else is in place correctly also.
    Last edited by Xanode; 01-28-2018 at 05:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yettibecsuse View Post
    I have a great one in Brisbane, he is one of the UQ Med lectures old school but is on the ball
    hey mate could you please email me this bloke id really appreciate mattyoung92 at gmail dot com

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