hCG Mixing: Withdrawing air before Pushing Water

**junk2222yard** · 01-03-2013, 06:25 PM

My doc mixed my hCG the last two times. Tomorrow I have to do it myself for 10,000iu of hCG.

Based on Youtube videos, it looks like every time you are withdrawing liquid, first you have to push in the same volume of air? And when you are pushing liquid in, to create equilibrium, you should first withdraw the same volume of air, right? "Air in, for liquid out", and "air out, for liquid in"?

So the real steps are:
1. insert needle and withdraw 4ml of air from freeze dried hCG vial (careful not to suck powder up)
2. with same needle, push that air into bac.water vial
3. draw out 4ml of bac water
4. push bac.water into original vial of freeze dried hCG vial

I got this right, right?

**steroid.com 1** · 01-03-2013, 06:52 PM

All my HCG vials have a vacuum and I actually have to hold the plunger back from wanting slam the bac water into the vial.

I think what you described here makes sense if you need to do it all to be honest...it's not rocket science.

**Rusty11** · 01-03-2013, 06:58 PM

GD's sticky on hcg is the best. Have you read it? Instructions on mixing are spelled out clearly. You want to draw air out after you inject the bac water into the powder-before removing the syringe. If you dont, the partially mixed powder/water will sort of explode within the vial. I was nervous first time. But,those inst. made it easy. I think I read that sticky 10 times.

Edit: ooops.... didnt realize "the man" had respnded.

**kelkel** · 01-03-2013, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by Rusty11

GD's sticky on hcg is the best. Have you read it? Instructions on mixing are spelled out clearly. You want to draw air out after you inject the bac water into the powder-before removing the syringe. If you dont, the partially mixed powder/water will sort of explode within the vial. I was nervous first time. But,those inst. made it easy. I think I read that sticky 10 times.

Edit: ooops.... didnt realize "the man" had respnded.

Personally, I'd rather hear from his wife. She's much better looking, trust me!

**Far from massive** · 01-03-2013, 07:46 PM

Another thing you can do after adding water is to loosen the needle to allow vacuum or pressure to be releived, naturally make sure the needle is not in the liquid when you do this LOL

Also while adding water if you feel pressure starting to build simply tip the vial and needle upward so the needle is not in the liquid then pull back the plunger till the pressure seems even or a little more then rotate the vial and needle so that the vial is on the bottom and the syringe/needle on the top then, tap the syringe to cause the liquid to move to the bottom of the syringe now depress the plunger to add more liquid. You can repeat this process as often as needed while adding bac water to the HCG .

**Rusty11** · 01-03-2013, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

personally, i'd rather hear from his wife. She's much better looking, trust me!

waiting for pics.....

**junk2222yard** · 01-03-2013, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by gdevine

All my HCG vials have a vacuum and I actually have to hold the plunger back from wanting slam the bac water into the vial.

I think what you described here makes sense if you need to do it all to be honest...it's not rocket science.

Didn't quite understand your comment.

I am assuming that you (and others) don't bother trying to draw air out of the hCG vial prior to pushing the water in, right? (I have read the sticky, just want to make sure I have this straight.) You mentioning a vacuum (I think) would imply there is no air to be drawn out to begin with, right?

I am sure I am overthinking/over analyzing again, but with hCG $100 a bottle, I simply can't risk effing it up.

**Rusty11** · 01-03-2013, 08:36 PM

Before I mixed my hcg , I spent hours reading online about how to mix it. I was totally over-thinking it. I think I annoyed ppl here with all my questions...lol. I simply followed the sticky and all was good. Re: the vacuum...when you inject the bac water into the powder, hold on to the plunger. I felt the vacuum putting force on the plunger. You want to inject it slowly into the powder. The vacuum will quickly slam the water into the powder. You don't want that to happen.

**MickeyKnox** · 01-03-2013, 08:40 PM

Like GD, I just hold the plunger. Keep it simple.

**kelkel** · 01-03-2013, 09:11 PM

Junk a $100 a bottle? Really?

**likelifting** · 01-03-2013, 09:14 PM

^ I goofed and bought a really expensive HCG kit also.

Never do that again.

**junk2222yard** · 01-03-2013, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Junk a $100 a bottle? Really?

Well if you must know, it is $6.99 for me through my insurance plan. But who is going to take me serious if I admitted that up front.

(Though in the interest of good faith, I do believe here in Toronto, Canada, it really is $100 a bottle if you buy it at full cost. So I am not completely full of ****. Maybe just half.)

**kelkel** · 01-03-2013, 09:39 PM

Damn. $6.99 sounds good to me.

**junk2222yard** · 01-03-2013, 09:45 PM

Yeah, I am kind of amazed. Because in my experience, finding a reasonable HRT doctor was so hard here in Canada, I figured getting the meds covered would be difficult, too. Although the government health program we have here does not cover any of it, my wife's insurance through her job has covered all three meds: Test E., hCG and Arimidex ! Each is only $6.99 for me. I did start out using Femara as an AI, and that was not covered, but that didn't work for me anyway.

Price-wise, I have really lucked out.

Now that said, the hCG is supposed to last a month. And if I did mess up a mix, it would not be expensive to replace, but I am not sure of the implications? It is possible my doc would be unwilling or unable to give me another Rx for the same month?

**steroid.com 1** · 01-03-2013, 11:36 PM

Once reconstituted HCG , when refrigerated, will hold its potency for at least 90 days or possibly more.

You're not going to mess it up; I could teach my 10 year old to do it in under 10 minutes...just follow the instructions in the sticky and hold on to the plunger in case your freeze dried HCG has a vacuum in the vial as it will want to draw the bac water in too fast and possibly damage the HCG molecule.

**junk2222yard** · 01-04-2013, 08:29 AM

Thanks Gdevine and others. I am not worried now that I have explored this on an OCD level! I will report back the outcome in this thread in case other nervous Nellie's need the same handholding as myself.

**kelkel** · 01-04-2013, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by junk2222yard

Thanks Gdevine and others. I am not worried now that I have explored this on an OCD level! I will report back the outcome in this thread in case other nervous Nellie's need the same handholding as myself.

No way......

**junk2222yard** · 01-08-2013, 09:32 AM

Still haven't mixed it, but I have it on hand. I thought my current stuff was defective because I got ball ache one day after injecting it. It worked the first several times, so I figured the mix was compromised or maybe just expired too fast. (I don't freeze syringes or anything, so the shelf life is limited.)

But, I did another shot that day, and the effect has lasted 3 days like it is supposed to? So something was just wrong with the single injection I did? Don't know what or how, but that must be the case. Sooooo... I am not mixing this next batch until I am out of the first or it really does expire or get too weak.

But I will update this thread when I mix.