5 mg cialis 2x a day

**Blitz777** · 03-30-2015, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by LFH40

Yes. Test Cyp through the site sponsor Low T dot com. They're absolutely awesome.

Ok, I ask because I personally do better on a test blend. 80/20 Cyp/prop with EOD injections of 25mg. Hcg is at 500iu 2x/week. At this dosage I do not need an AI, as my E is stable at the bottom end of the reference range.

As others have said, your T levels may be too high. I'll reiterate that higher isn't always better. My recommendation would be to discuss getting your total and free T to settle in the third quartile of the reference range with your doc. That is certainly where I feel best.

Also, are you taking any TRT related supplements?

**johnny the blade** · 03-30-2015, 09:35 AM

With regards to the Cialis conversation.... I anticipate my shipment of Liquid Cia from the site sponsor today. From what I've learned here, it seems like the perfect drug for aging men, as I am creeping into my late 40's, and a great compliment to a TRT regimen. I was planning on starting at 5mgs once per day then make any adjustments from there if need be. Is this a recommended starting protocol? What is the best time of day to take this? should it be on an empty stomach or does that not matter? Any input is greatly appreciated. Thanks guys.

**LFH40** · 03-30-2015, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by Blitz777

Ok, I ask because I personally do better on a test blend. 80/20 Cyp/prop with EOD injections of 25mg. Hcg is at 500iu 2x/week. At this dosage I do not need an AI, as my E is stable at the bottom end of the reference range.

As others have said, your T levels may be too high. I'll reiterate that higher isn't always better. My recommendation would be to discuss getting your total and free T to settle in the third quartile of the reference range with your doc. That is certainly where I feel best.

Also, are you taking any TRT related supplements?

I'm taking as follows:
Test Cyp as we discussed, hCG 250iu twice per week, vitamin D3 5000iu daily, fish oil (tsp daily) L-Arginine 3g daily, and I was taking citrulline till I ran out. Aside from that, just a multi-vitamin and creatine monodhydrate..and a whey protein. That and a 40/40/20 diet of whole foods. I was thinking no matter what happens with regards to my dosage, a low dose daily cialis would only benefit me. Even when I fell in my "sweet spot" erections weren't much to brag about. A few days since on TRT I've had morning wood. Outside of that, not much to speak of.

Does anyone know what exactly is IN the liquid Cia? I'm curious. Are they made with the same safety standards as an FDA approved plant?

**kewe** · 03-30-2015, 01:03 PM

I just started taking it as well. I do every 12 hours a dose of 3mg each morning and night under my tongue on an empty stomach.

It will separate so mix the bottle well... and I bought a 1ml dropper for dosage

**2Sox** · 03-30-2015, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by LFH40

Does anyone know what exactly is IN the liquid Cia? I'm curious. Are they made with the same safety standards as an FDA approved plant?

I've had the same questions about "research" medications. I'd suggest you email AR-R and simply ask. But IMO, since they are not intended for human consumption, I highly doubt the standards are up to the FDA's.

I had a very bad experience with a liquid exemestane (not from AR-R) I ordered a while back so I'm very suspicious about research chemicals in general. However, not long ago I took a chance and ordered GHRPs from an excellent source and they are working great. Better than I could have hoped for. You just have to do what's comfortable for you.

**johnny the blade** · 03-30-2015, 05:23 PM

Thanks Kewe. What have the effects been like so far?

**kewe** · 03-31-2015, 08:20 AM

It pretty much feels like I am using Cialis. I just forget to take the evening dose since I only took the Cialis in the morning. It took a few days to really feel it - mainly I noticed that my pulse lowered which was the same effect I had before. I am only using 2 lines on the 1ml dropper which is around 3mg which I do twice daily. I was taking 5mg of Cialis daily.

**johnny the blade** · 03-31-2015, 08:33 AM

Thanks for the feedback, I plan on starting with the same protocol.

**johnny the blade** · 04-07-2015, 10:35 AM

Anyone experience body aches their first week on Liquid Cia?

**LFH40** · 04-07-2015, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by johnny the blade

Anyone experience body aches their first week on Liquid Cia?

Yes. Lower back pains that are so bad that I haven't had a solid nights sleep in 4 days. For the love of God, I hope it gets better. It's affecting my workouts. The headaches I can manage, but the lower back pain is excruciating.

**johnny the blade** · 04-07-2015, 12:09 PM

I here ya LFH. Tuff nights sleep for me as well and had to take a couple days off from the gym. My discomfort is in my back and legs. Almost like a weakness before you get the flu. I hope this gets better because i'd like to reap the benefits so many talk about. good luck.

**roxer** · 04-08-2015, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by LFH40

Yes. Lower back pains that are so bad that I haven't had a solid nights sleep in 4 days. For the love of God, I hope it gets better. It's affecting my workouts. The headaches I can manage, but the lower back pain is excruciating.

Stop dosing and then give it two days. Drop your dosage. It's not going away. I have the exact same issues with doses higher than 10 mg daily. We fall into that 1% of folks with problems.

**LFH40** · 04-08-2015, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by roxer

Stop dosing and then give it two days. Drop your dosage. It's not going away. I have the exact same issues with doses higher than 10 mg daily. We fall into that 1% of folks with problems.

Fortunately for me, my workout must have been the issue. I must have over exerted myself and coincidentally it started when I started the C, because today I woke up and the back pain was gone! 4 days and it's normal again. Thank God!

**LFH40** · 04-09-2015, 12:12 PM

Here's a really stupid question. When you give your rats liquid cia, at 5mg, it's such a small amount in the syringe, how does this get into the system? It's barely enough for the rat to swallow. It sort of just absorbs into the rats mouth. Is this the idea? Is under the tongue better? Back of the throat? I am just curious how it works.

**kewe** · 04-09-2015, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by LFH40

Here's a really stupid question. When you give your rats liquid cia, at 5mg, it's such a small amount in the syringe, how does this get into the system? It's barely enough for the rat to swallow. It sort of just absorbs into the rats mouth. Is this the idea? Is under the tongue better? Back of the throat? I am just curious how it works.

I bought a glass medicine 1ml dropper and use the first 2 lines which is 6mg and I put it under my tongue twice a day

**2Sox** · 04-09-2015, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by LFH40

Here's a really stupid question. When you give your rats liquid cia, at 5mg, it's such a small amount in the syringe, how does this get into the system? It's barely enough for the rat to swallow. It sort of just absorbs into the rats mouth. Is this the idea? Is under the tongue better? Back of the throat? I am just curious how it works.

I understand that the syringe that comes with the liquid doesn't inspire confidence but once the stuff is anywhere in your mouth, it's in you and will do its job. I know.

**kewe** · 04-09-2015, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by 2Sox

I understand that the syringe that comes with the liquid doesn't inspire confidence but once the stuff is anywhere in your mouth, it's in you and will do its job. I know.

Nothing came with mine

**2Sox** · 04-09-2015, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by kewe

Nothing came with mine

Hmmm. Might have come with their Liquidex. Don't remember. It's been awhile since I ordered any of their products.

**kewe** · 04-09-2015, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by 2Sox

Hmmm. Might have come with their Liquidex. Don't remember. It's been awhile since I ordered any of their products.

It was disappointing but I bought on amazon. Going to try a pill from india that several people told me the same brand and mark.

**LFH40** · 04-09-2015, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by 2Sox

I understand that the syringe that comes with the liquid doesn't inspire confidence but once the stuff is anywhere in your mouth, it's in you and will do its job. I know.

Perfect! That's the answer I was hoping for. It seems so small, but volume-wise, it's the correct amount. And it IS working! Not crazy bones or anything, but I know it is working. Only taking 5mg 2x daily.

**Lockout888** · 05-05-2015, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by kewe

can someone PM me with a good India .com to buy from?

I would appreciate PMs on this too. Any particular sources that are good quality & price.

**APIs** · 05-07-2015, 07:12 AM

Just an FYI - I was on Cialis 5 mgs daily for over a year. I changed insurance and this new plan would not approve Cialis for daily use at the beginning of 2015. I recently acquired Compounded Cialis through a compounding pharmacy with a script from my Doc. Instead of 5 mgs, they're 7 mg capsules. So far the product's been working fine. So this may be another option for those who are leery of ordering from overseas. Cost is comparable to what I paid for genuine Cialis 5 mgs @ about $160 for a 3 months supply...

**Beethoven** · 05-07-2015, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by APIs

Just an FYI - I was on Cialis 5 mgs daily for over a year. I changed insurance and this new plan would not approve Cialis for daily use at the beginning of 2015. I recently acquired Compounded Cialis through a compounding pharmacy with a script from my Doc. Instead of 5 mgs, they're 7 mg capsules. So far the product's been working fine. So this may be another option for those who are leery of ordering from overseas. Cost is comparable to what I paid for genuine Cialis 5 mgs @ about $160 for a 3 months supply...

Thanks for sharing API. I think someone else, low t if memory serves brought that up on another thread. Great info. That is my next move.

**Dee3152** · 06-02-2015, 03:17 AM

Can someone pm the India . Com site their using

**Beethoven** · 06-30-2015, 12:49 PM

Back on .5 mg cialis daily. So far woohoo! I'm also taking 10-12 mg of L-Arginine daily. For those of you who do L-Arginine, do you take it at night or during the day?

**2Sox** · 06-30-2015, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by Beethoven

Back on .5 mg cialis daily. So far woohoo! I'm also taking 10-12 mg of L-Arginine daily. For those of you who do L-Arginine, do you take it at night or during the day?

Morning, evening and pre-workout

**Beethoven** · 07-01-2015, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by 2Sox

Morning, evening and pre-workout

What dosage? I've been taking 10-12 gm.

**2Sox** · 07-01-2015, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by Beethoven

What dosage? I've been taking 10-12 gm.

That seems like a high dosage to me. I take 1 gram in a.m. and in p.m. and 3 grams pre-workout

**Beethoven** · 07-02-2015, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by 2Sox

That seems like a high dosage to me. I take 1 gram in a.m. and in p.m. and 3 grams pre-workout

There was a video on here some time back about L Arginine, if I'm not mistaken, for blood pressure as well as other ailments up to 15 mg a day. Going to have to search. Somewhere on this thread I think it was Austinite was taking ten grams.

**2Sox** · 07-02-2015, 07:56 PM

Crazy where this thread has gone.

From what I know, L-Arginine doesn't really lower blood pressure all that much. It does however make for more nitric oxide. Good for erections. But for us older guys who have BPH and take Flomax and Cialis daily and then Beta Alanine and Arginine in our workout drinks - we have to be aware that all this stuff together can lower blood pressure TOO much! I've been reminded of this when I got up fast from a sitting position and nearly hit the floor because I got dizzy. I cut right back on the Alanine which made all the difference. We just have to be careful and think about what we take.

**Megalodon6** · 01-02-2016, 01:45 PM

Has anyone tried the liquid v from our sponsor it's a little bit cheaper i was thinking about giving it a shot, but was wondering if anyone else has tried it and could give me any imput. I know cialis lowers bp but mine is fine, and if i can save a few dollars and get the same result why not. Any and all responses would be deeply appreciated

**bigdil511** · 01-02-2016, 01:52 PM

They aren't a sponsor anymore.

**Megalodon6** · 01-02-2016, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by bigdil511

They aren't a sponsor anymore.

My bad lol haven't been on here in a while. That being said I'm still curious, and would love a answer to my question.

**bullshark99** · 01-02-2016, 02:35 PM

V is different than C, V will give you 4-6 hrs, C around the clock with daily dose.

**Megalodon6** · 01-02-2016, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by bullshark99

V is different than C, V will give you 4-6 hrs, C around the clock with daily dose.

Awesome thanks, in that case I'll just go with the cialis

**SpiritRock** · 03-07-2016, 10:01 PM

Need a place to order..Just tried from the Old sponsor and none of my credit cards work there anymore. I had ordered the Liquid CIA from them before and it worked great. Thanks for any help.

**bsh** · 03-07-2016, 10:24 PM

It's the way it's being billed... Out of the country I was told but I told my card it's legit and the took off the block... Placed my order and it arrived today!

**wellshii** · 01-02-2017, 04:15 PM

Been debating on either viagra or cialis myself.
Found some studies on both, here's one from a muscle development,Cialis Increases Testosterone

Viagra
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24106072

Anyone use Icariin(AKA horny goat weed) for the same effects?

**almostgone** · 01-03-2017, 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by wellshii

Been debating on either viagra or cialis myself.
Found some studies on both, here's one from a muscle development,Cialis Increases Testosterone

Viagra
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24106072

Anyone use Icariin(AKA horny goat weed) for the same effects?

Personally, I would opt for the daily Cialis. It has several benefits other than its primary use. I gave it a go for several weeks and was plagued by random nosebleeds. Although that is a side effect for some people, I am not ready to chalk it up to the Cialis and plan to have a go at it again.

Edit: I was taking 5mg/day.